Some issues I flip on a lot

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1) Believe women.  Currently I support the fifth amendment.

2) God.  Currently I don’t worship any higher power.

3) Abortion.  Currently, I’m pro choice.

4) Possibly others.  I don’t have a lot of time to make this list.
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1) Believe women.  Currently I support the fifth amendment.
"belive women" is sjw nonsense, the court and evidence should be the only judging power

2) God.  Currently I don’t worship any higher power.
well thats cringe, God is real and Catholicism is the backbone of western civilization

3) Abortion.  Currently, I’m pro choice.
nah pro life is better-even libertarians can be soundly pro-life

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an atheist who is usually conservative?

this song was written for u... 
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Believe women
I don't know what you are possibly talking about. Believing women is common decency and the failure of doing so makes you no different than a Middle-ages priest.

God
There is no proof. You can believe it if you feel good about it, but remember it is not an obligation.

Abortion
Pro-life. I have said it and I will say it again. Invest in childcare, healthcare, foster homes, contraception, etc, so in the end there won't even be an abortion, and the kid would grow up successfully under at least someone.

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2) God.  Currently I don’t worship any higher power.
well thats cringe, God is real and Catholicism is the backbone of western civilization
Well that's cringe, imagine worshipping a made-up explanation for things we do not have an explanation yet but have no proof of existing just because other people believed in it.

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God is not a "made up explanation"
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"belive women" is sjw nonsense
You sure about that?  My mom supports the movement and she’s pro life.

God is real and Catholicism is the backbone of western civilization
This is inaccurate.  There are many non Catholic countries in the west ( like the UK, USA, the Tasman countries, etc) and there are many Catholic countries (like some in Africa) that aren’t western.  What does it mean to be western?
nah pro life is better-even libertarians can be soundly pro-life
My justification for being pro choice is the following:

If every single unwanted pregnancy got aborted, then the foster system runs out of babies to take care of so they have to save 3rd world kids just to keep their buisiness alive.  If I had to pick between an unborn baby being aborted or that kid being birthed, set up for adoption, and since the foster system only has a certain number of slots, it will mean that another kid will die a much more painful death than abortion, I would prefer abortion as I perceive it as the lesser of 2 evils.
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Believing women is common decency and the failure of doing so makes you no different than a Middle-ages priest.
I think if a female told me she was raped, I would believe her.  That’s not what opponents of believe women including myself are worried about.  They are worried about a judge hearing about an unfounded rape case and prosecuting the accused male as a rapist on the grounds that evidence is usually unavailable, so it would give a female the ability to prosecute a male with no evidence.

In short, judges need evidence to believe an alleged rape victim, civilians don’t.  The difference is judges have power to administer sentences that the civilian doesn’t.

As for abortion, until every kid is saved from dying of starvation due to them being in a good home, we can’t bring more unwanted kids in this world.
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You sure about that?  My mom supports the movement and she’s pro life.
ok? it is sjw nonsense

This is inaccurate.  There are many non Catholic countries in the west ( like the UK, USA, the Tasman countries, etc) and there are many Catholic countries (like some in Africa) that aren’t western.  What does it mean to be western?
catholic philosophy built western civilization non catholic countries in the west build off of catholic philosophy even they say they aren't

My justification for being pro choice is the following:

If every single unwanted pregnancy got aborted, then the foster system runs out of babies to take care of so they have to save 3rd world kids just to keep their buisiness alive.  If I had to pick between an unborn baby being aborted or that kid being birthed, set up for adoption, and since the foster system only has a certain number of slots, it will mean that another kid will die a much more painful death than abortion, I would prefer abortion as I perceive it as the lesser of 2 evils.
very weird explanation, im not quite sure how to respond but i can assure you that this reasoning is wrong
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ok? it is sjw nonsense
If my mom was an SJW, she would be pro choice.  But she claims she is pro life.

catholic philosophy built western civilization non catholic countries in the west build off of catholic philosophy even they say they aren't

What is the definition of Catholic philosophy?  If the definition is agreeing with the Pope on policy, then Catholic teaching is different from western civilization.  For instance, the pope outlawed abortion and advocates for open borders.  European states are pro choice and they are tough on immigration.

Conclusion: Either the Catholic Church isn’t the definition of western, or European countries aren’t western countries.
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Another issue I flip on a lot: Death penalty.  I currently support it for murder and rape.  Evidence needed.
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If my mom was an SJW, she would be pro choice.  But she claims she is pro life.

what does that even mean?
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I don't know what you are possibly talking about. Believing women is common decency and the failure of doing so makes you no different than a Middle-ages priest.

Are you joking? Do you not understand that this comment cannot exist in a vacuum?

Believing women means believing the man is guilty without any evidence. So in other words, completely annihilate the reputation of any guy unlucky enough to be on the receiving end of a potentially false accusation.

Well that's cringe
Being a lib is cringe.
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Well, I don’t think your description is accurate.

I would think more surveillance so that we could have more evidence than a woman speaking.

Surveillance is not the problem, the people who uses them is the problem. Logging onto Youtube should not be punished by surveillance, whereas assault, once caught, should be.

I believe “believe women” is a flawed idea, because there are females assaulting males and getting away, and there are real examples of that. “Believing the victim” would at least be a more plausible idea than “believe women”.
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Ok, but what does “believing victims” mean then? You must assume someone else’s guilt if you believe the victim, yes?
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If my mom was an SJW, she would be pro choice.  But she claims she is pro life.

what does that even mean?
It means she does not agree with SJW theory on everything.  I wouldn't say believing women is an SJW idea as much as it is a mainstream left wing idea.
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I don't get it.
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instead of a conservative atheist, you should be a liberal theist. and the song in the link is pointing out that you got it all wrong. 
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I don't agree with the majority of left wing economic or social policies and I don't agree with religion, so why should I be that way?
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1) Believe women.  Currently I support the fifth amendment.

I hear you.  Yet, surely we should believe in the principle of justice.  Innocent until proven guilty. Isn't that the basis of justice. He or she who asserts must prove it and the accused must be allowed to test the evidence.  And while it is currently trendy to just "believe the alleged victim", the principles of justice ought not be moved because the victim thinks it is unfair.   All victims should be heard and listened too - but not given any rights over and above so called accused. 

2) God.  Currently I don’t worship any higher power.
What does worship mean? And good for you. 

3) Abortion.  Currently, I’m pro choice.
If we own our own bodies, then being pro- choice is an acceptable opinion.  Given we are the one who is living, it makes sense to choose what we do with our bodies.  A no brainer. 






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What does worship mean? And good for you. 
worship definition - Bing shows some good definitions, although I don't think they stand up to scrutiny.  For example, people show adoration to their spouses.  This doesn't inheritely mean people worship their spouses.
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Cool - so what do you think it means? 

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what does believe women even mean
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My definition of worship is to treat someone with the same respect religious people treat God.
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I think the believe women movement wants individuals and judges to assume every rape victim is telling the truth.  This includes prosecuting people who have rape charges as if they were rapists.  This violates the 5th amendment and I don't feel like advocating for it's repeal.
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Thanks for that definition. so what is religious respect? Is that different to other kinds of respect?
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well i agree with you, its mostly propogated by sjws
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Religious respect I think is letting someone do something no matter what because they are that awesome in the view of the worshipper.  For example, if you let God kill people for refusing to obey priests, that is worshipping God since you let him get away with anything.  A lot of people also worship Trump and Trump admitted this saying he could shoot someone and not lose any voters.

Conventional respect is merely a positive opinion of somebody or something.  For example, I respect Rand Paul since I agree with his tax policies.  However, if Rand Paul raped or murdered somebody and I believed he did, I would lose respect for him because I don't have religious respect for Rand Paul, but merely conventional respect.

You can conventionally respect anybody who you want.  However, I object to religious respect because everybody should be accountable for bad things.