If Hillary Clinton had won the 2016 presidential election, how would things be different today, and would society or you personally be worse off than you are now?
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If Hillary had won in 2016, American COVID deaths would be fewer than 100,000 but would have lost the 2020 election due to quarantine backlash. Ted Cruz would be President now in Geneva, giving Putin a rubdown and calling him his "macho role model."
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@oromagi
There is no way. Liberals were lashing out at trump as a racist when he stopped air travel from China. Hillary could not have sealed off the country either.
Before this hit the country conservatives were saying "nobody should be in or out" if there are americans overseas they should be quarantined upon return for 14 days in a guarded hotel.
In New York they were having "huh a chinese day" to combat the racism of saying that a virus originated in China.
What exactly would she have done?
Trump every step of the way was insulted as a racist for taking measures against covid. Even when he shut down travel from Europe.
Liberals created the FDA and apparently feel safer when life saving drugs take a decade to come to market. They wouldn't have cut the red tape like trump and allow a vaccine to come faster.
Once the virus hit american shores, sure a lot of conservatives gave up and didn't take it seriously. All the charts showed it spreads exponentially and therefore will infect 100% of people. Other than worry about hospitals becoming over crowded, there was more benefit to making the spread go faster than slowing it down. Hospitals were actually being closed in a lot of rural areas because they weren't getting enough patients, so we know hospitals never got overcrowded.
Here is why it is better everyone is infected fast. If everyone gets the immunities early on, than there is less chance for this to mutate into a super bug. The longer you allow it to go the more opportunities for mutation. At this point it will stick around forever because it now has multiple strains.
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@Wylted
Let's recall that Wylted said yesterday that he was not confident that the COVID virus was real and speculated that the govt. was deliberately mis-labeling death from flu and other causes to fake a pandemic that never happened. Let's also note that Wylted consistently opposes the vaccines that now represent the most essential preventative medicine against the virus which he may or may not believe is real. Now Wylted wants us to credit his opinion on how COVID spread through the US and the effectiveness of Trump's quarantine. Let's conclude that Wylted is only interested in propagating disinformation and unconcerned about maintaining any internal logic or rational consistency to that disinformation from day to day.
There is no way.
way, dude
Liberals were lashing out at trump as a racist when he stopped air travel from China.
Liberals have been taking note of Trump's racist practices and beliefs since at least the late 70's.
Hillary could not have sealed off the country either.
I don't think there's much doubt that Hillary would have followed the CDC's recommendations regarding quarantine in this and all other cases. China banned all travel in and out of Wuhan on Jan 23rd which pretty effectively stopped the spread of disease from there. The CDC recommended to Trump a travel ban plus mandatory 14-day quarantine for all travelers from China to the US on Jan 28th. Canada, for example, followed this advice on Jan 29th. Trump implement a travel ban on Feb 2nd but failed to implement a 14-day quarantine and did not ban or quarantine US citizens flying from China to the US. Of course, China does not encourage its citizens to travel internationally under the best of circumstances so 85-90% of all US-China air traffic is US citizens so the net impact on people flying home from China was pretty minimal. In any case, by the time Trump acted, little to no virus was escaping earlier and more stringent Chinese quarantines.
So while any accusation of racism specific to this ban may be questionable, we knew even then that COVID infections were not specific to any nationality and that an American could bring the disease into the US just as easily as a Chinese- so nationalism, exceptionalism, and plain old ignorance were certainly fair charges.
We can see now that the overwhelming majority of US cases came from Italy, not China, with patient 0 in New York arriving on Feb 20th. The CDC first recommended a level 4 quarantine for all international travelers on Feb 3rd (although the WHO strenuously opposed this) and by Feb 13th advised Trump that the pandemic's spread in the US was probably inevitable. Canada halted all air traffic from Europe on Feb 9th. Trump finally banned travel from Europe (with an ineffective voluntary 14 day quarantine) but not UK or Russia on Mar 12th, three weeks after patient 0 and more than a month after science told him to.
Here is why it is better everyone is infected fast. If everyone gets the immunities early on, than there is less chance for this to mutate into a super bug.
Obviously, this directly contradicts everything Wylted said above and obviously every new individual that get the bug is a new culture for mutations to arise so the more people infected directly correlates to more mutations. The US had the worst pandemic response under Trump in terms of per capita infections compared to any other nation and consequently the most unnecessary death. Biden's first day ramp up of vaccinations and international quarantines quickly tamped the virus' spread in the US which is now a world leader in numbers of immune people.
At this point it will stick around forever because it now has multiple strains.
Or it was never real to begin with- make up your mind.
There are many strains of measles, smallpox, polio yet the US successfully suppressed these disease decades ago. If we ignore the anti-vaxxers and invest in public heath, we have every reason to be optimistic about controlling COVID (and future inevitable SARS outbreaks).