Does the Bible teach a flat Earth

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BrotherDThomas, you claim that the entirety of the Bible is the direct word of God, such as to claim that the Biblical view of Earth as flat is a requirement for Christians to believe in.

Let me show you a verse in the Bible that clearly shows us that there are places in the Bible where HUMANS wrote something.

The author of the book of Nehemiah calls himself Nehemiah ... he describes himself as a human and refers to God in the third person throughout the book.

Your claim that the entire Bible is written by God implies that God is LYING by calling his own words the words of Nehemiah?

How dare you slap your Jewish Genocidal Jesus/Yahwe God in the face by claiming that he is a liar.


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Also, you claim that God is lying when he says that the Earth is flat, which is obviously not the case --- we literally have images proving the Earth is round as I showed before.
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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from futher embarrassment within this forum,

To the main topic AGAIN FOR THE 3RD TIME, I gave you a very simple proposition to follow in my post #55 shown above and relating to when you stated the following comical scenario: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of "corner" along with other ideas. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

Therefore in relating to your statement above, you were to enlighten the membership in using insidious Hebrew apologetics and hermeneutics to explain how “corners” when used in the following passages, were not what they actually meant, but as you comically said, "could be a word that has the 'sense' of being a corner along with other ideas that could be used for the word 'corner", understood?  Your priceless gobbledygook thereof should be easy for you to use, is it not? LOL!


Therefore,  TRY AGAIN FOR THE 3RD TIME to show what "corners" actually meant in the following EACH PASSAGE to address any variants thereof, okay? The membership has now WAITED 3 TIMES FOR YOU TO PERFORM THIS ACT, whereas you keep running away from what you proposed by not giving EXAMPLES to the passages below regarding corners!!!

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“He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

“You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

“Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners, and corners in general because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

“And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

“And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  


ROSENDS, now I have to keep track of how many times you will RUN AWAY from your proposed "corner" examples in your post #49, like I had to do in my post of you RUNNING AWAY for you to even start answering this topic in my link below! LOL!


Seriously, can you call for "help" from a Jewish friend that you may have, so he can help you out in this embarrassing predicament that you are now as the membership still awaits your perceived knowledge upon the topic above? Yes?


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Benjamin, 

YOUR QUOTE RELATIVE TO YAHWEH/JESUS' WORDS: "BrotherDThomas, you claim that the entirety of the Bible is the direct word of God, such as to claim that the Biblical view of Earth as flat is a requirement for Christians to believe in. Let me show you a verse in the Bible that clearly shows us that there are places in the Bible where HUMANS wrote something."

Try and understand that EVERY word within the JUDEO-Christian Bible is "inspired" directly from my brutal serial killer Yahweh/Jesus.  “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

Therefore, doing the simple math, since EVERY word of Yahweh/Jesus in stating that the earth is FLAT, is directly from Him as God, therefore who is anyone to argue against Him by saying that the earth is not flat!  Get it?


YOUR MISINFORMED QUOTE: "Your claim that the entire Bible is written by God implies that God is LYING by calling his own words the words of Nehemiah?  How dare you slap your Jewish Genocidal Jesus/Yahwe God in the face by claiming that he is a liar."

After reading and understanding 1 Thessalonians 2:13 shown above, the TRUE Christian like myself has to accept that when Nehemiah spoke within the scriptures, he spoke words inspired by Yahweh/Jesus irrelative of who is calling one a liar.  Get it?


Now, if you really want to hear some gobbledygook jibber-jabber upon your questions, have the runaway from Hebrew Biblical axioms ROSENDS explain your questions since they are in his Old Testament as being a Jew.  If you do seek his rendition, get a towel out because you will be crying in laughter! 


You can thank me later for your biblical enlightenment upon your questions.

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YOUR QUOTE: "Also, you claim that God is lying when he says that the Earth is flat, which is obviously not the case --- we literally have images proving the Earth is round as I showed before."

Refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying relative to the earth being flat. Your statement that we have images showing the earth is not flat, is irrelevant because you are being anachronistic, whereas Yahweh/Jesus says it is flat!  In turn, are you calling Yahweh/Jesus a LIAR???!!!  BLASPHEME!

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@BrotherDThomas
You have still failed to answer my question --- you are still avoiding the main problem.

You claim that God directly wrote the verses in the Bible that talks about a flat Earth, yet evidence shows that Earth is round


Thus, these are the alternatives:
  • God is a liar
  • All evidence humanity has -- basically all our knowledge -- is wrong
  • God did not write the verses of a flat Earth -- meaning you are wrongly interpreting 2 Thesalonicans.
  • These verses were not intended by God to deceive us into thinking that Earth was flat -- God had other purposes, or the humans who wrote the Bible were allowed to use their own writing style to write the word of God, leading to irrelevant factual mistakes that don't alter the religious message of the Bible
Either way, I challenge you to tell me which of the above-mentioned alternatives is true, and why.

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You keep thinking I have run away because I gave you the wrong citation in the answer that I gave. You asked what the meaning of the Hebrew word was in those situations, and I pointed to the Targum Yerushalmi but I accidentally called it the Targum Yonatan, so that must have confused you. But now that I have clarified, just go back to message 45 and see the answer to your question.

BUT, if that's not enough, then that Targum Yonatan (yes, I mean Yonatan this time) on Isaiah 11:12 explains it as
תרגום יונתן על ישעיהו י״א:י״ב
וְיִזְקוֹף אָת לְעַמְמַיָא וְיַכְנֵישׁ מְבַדְרֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְגָלוּת יְהוּדָה יְקָרֵב מֵאַרְבַּע רוּחֵי אַרְעָא
and that is a really interesting explanation, right? By the way -- Isaiah 41:9 doesn't use the k-n-f root at all! It uses the q-tz-h root which Onkelos has as מִזַרְעִית and Klein has as both "end" and "extremity." No one has "corner" so your translation is totally wrong (unless the translator was using some sort of metaphor).

The Targum Onkelos on Iyov 43 uses the word סְיָפֵי so that should clear that up for you also, right? Especially when you couple it with אַרְעָא which, as you know, means "land" not "world". 

Stop running away just because you don't understand something.
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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

To the main topic AGAIN FOR THE 4TH TIME, I gave you a very simple proposition to follow in my post #55 shown above and relating to when you stated the following comical scenario: “You're embarrassing yourself. I mean, that's a nice shtick, sure, but you must have missed where I pointed out that the root used in the 3 examples you cited is not the root for "corner" but a word that has the sense of "corner" ALONG WITH OTHER IDEAS. Did you miss my mention of p-a-h and q-r-n?”

ONCE AGAIN in your chagrin, you are to show the membership the OTHER IDEAS part of your statement above relating to the passages listed below pertaining to the term "corners," where your subsequent gibberish to this point in your posts don't  give examples as requested, but only runs away from them since the term OTHER IDEAS preclude there is more than one example, get it?  You gave your definition above, now follow it for the entire membership and show EACH PASSAGE below in how the word "corners" are defined without any more Hebrew mumbo-jumbo, get it?  

Now, in your embarrassment, if you can't defend your Hebrew faith in this respect as shown above, can you tell us of someone that can within this forum?!

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“He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

“You whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off”(Isaiah 41:9)

“Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.” (Job 37:3).

Rosends, Iam including the New Testament mentioning of 4 corners, and corners in general because of the simple fact that my Jesus is your Yahweh God incarnate, therefore they are the same God in the mentioning of corners in the following passages, understood? Do you need further simple explanation upon this simple proposition? Huh?

“And saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. (Acts 10:11)

“I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision, something like a great sheet descending, being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to me.” (Acts 11:5)

“And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.” (Revelation 20:7-8)

Another flat earth approach, which is one of MANY, is the following passage: “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.” (Isaiah 24:1). Only a flat earth can be turned upside down to scatter its inhabitants, GET IT ROSENDS, THE HEBREW BIBLE FOOL?  Give your ungodly "what the Bible literally says, is not what the Bible means" apologetic and hermeneutic spin!  

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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one,

YOUR TIRING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN, WHERE YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!: "You claim that God directly wrote the verses in the Bible that talks about a flat Earth, yet evidence shows that Earth is round." 

To save yourself further embarrassment in front of the membership, look up the word "ANACHRONISTIC," that I have used with you before, and then get back to me, okay?  Thanks.

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funny thing -- not only did I go through the quotes and explained, but if you want to stick to "what the bible says, the bible means" literalism, then the bible never says that the world has corners, only that the land does. How can you defend a connotative understanding of the word a-r-tz (land) and expect only a literal one for k-n-f?

You are all confused. Sorry for making you look so foolish.
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Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR BEREFT QUOTE TO RUN AWAY FROM A SIMPLE PROPOSITION "5 TIMES" IN YOUR POST #70 THAT I POSED TO YOU IN MY POST #68: "funny thing -- not only did I go through the quotes and explained, but if you want to stick to "what the bible says, the bible means" literalism, then the bible never says that the world has corners, only that the land does. How can you defend a connotative understanding of the word a-r-tz (land) and expect only a literal one for k-n-f?"

You DID NOT take each passage as requested to individually show your quoted notion of "along with other ideas"  that precludes to the various Hebrew definitions of the word "corners,"  instead in your normal fashion upon this forum, you ran away from them again  in front of the membership in your wanting post #70! LOL!


Since you are an habitual run away from your Tanakh Hebrew Bible, then can you tell us a Hebrew within this forum that would not runaway from discussion pertaining to your quote herewith: "along with other ideas," which relates to "corners" with various definitions that you continually RUN AWAY from in my passages in question that ou were to address under the term "Along with other ideas."   https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=2&post_number=49


ROSENDS, take your running shoes off in the time being, and grant my request above so the membership can hopefully this time get a response from another Hebrew upon the topic shown above that does not runaway from it, thanking you in advance.  


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Someone here mentions "half-assed" often enough to suggest the presence of a mirror in a past condition. Familiarity breeds contempt.
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Does the Bible teach a flat Earth?
The fact that the Earth is spherical was proven by Pythagoras around 570BC and an undisputed geographical fact taught to Greek schoolchildren even 300 years before Christ was born.   Romans in the time of Augustus were able to accurately predict eclipses of the Sun and Moon- they understood that that spherical shadow engulfing the moon was the Earth occluding the Sun. 

Jesus would have never doubted that the Earth is round.


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Rosends, the ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR QUOTE IN EASILY STEPPING IN THE PROVERBIAL POO AGAIN IN YOUR WANTING POST #70, LOL!!!: “but if you want to stick to "what the bible says, the bible means" literalism, then the bible never says that the world has corners, only that the land does.”

Barring your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance and stupidity of same, in you using the position of trying to make a point to save what face you have left upon this forum, you briefly took your Tanakh as literal when you proposed that 4-corners only related to “land” as shown in this Hebrew Tanakh Bible passage: “And you, O son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel: An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land..” (Ezekiel 7:2)

BUT, because of your total Tanakh Bible ignorance, it also states in the same biblical usage that you accepted in "4-corners of land" the following passage: “He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (Isaiah 11:12)

Therefore, when you used the 4 corners of land LITERALLY to accept and to “try” and make your point to me, then in turn, you have to accept Isaiah 11:12 in showing the earth has 4 corners and therefore being FLAT, because a globe does not have corners, get it Bible fool?  Yeah, you do at your chagrin once again.


Further addressing your continued Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorance, then when you said " the bible never says that the world has corners," then in the same vein, your Hebrew Bible never said that the earth is a globe either, get it? Huh?  LOL!  OMG, you make it so easy for me. :(

ROSENDS, you’re excused for now, that is, until you try in vain once again to refute my posts to you that continue to show you as the most Hebrew Tanakh Bible ignorant fool upon this esteemed Religion Forum, bar none!


NEXT?

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oromagi,

ADDRESSING YOUR QUOTE PERTAINING TO JESUS AND A "ROUND" EARTH: "Jesus would have never doubted that the Earth is round."

Barring you quoting: "they understood that spherical shadow engulfing the moon was the Earth ...." does not show the earth spherical as a globe, but can only show it as a flat shadowed circle surface like Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures stated herewith: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."  (Isaiah 40:22).   A Circle is NOT Spherical.

If Jesus purported that the earth was "round," which is not a spherical globe by true definition, then in turn, there is not one mention of the earth being a globe within the scriptures, NONE!   BUT,  more so than not, there are many passages where the Hebrew Tanakh Bible, and the Christian New Testament, show explicitly that the earth was flat.

In you bringing up Pythagoras, he "taught" that the Earth was a sphere and at the center of the Universe!  Whoops! Does he still have credibility? Hmmmmm ....


Subjectively, you are being to anachronistic relating to the primitive thinking of the Bronze and Iron Age writers of the JUDEO-Christian, and Hebrew Tanakh Bibles.

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HELLO? You still haven't addressed my question to you in the following link that you are running away from in front of the membership:



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You quote Ezekiel 7:2 and Isaiah 11:12 and have them with 2 different translations and yet the Hebrew for the two phrases is identical. So I guess you like interpretations when they suit you. You aren't very good at this, are you?
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therefore you forgot to mention that this proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that since GOD JESUS stated these cosmology points herein, then they have to be TRUE because they are direct words from the serial killer Hebrew Christian GOD!  2+2=4.
You have raised this point before, many times; that every word of the Bible is direct word from Christ/Hebrew God Yahweh.

What make you, then of Paul's writing in I Corinthians 15: the entire chapter, and its context relative to v 29, speaking of baptism for the dead? In context, many describe that the wording is difficult to described, simply because Christian theologians do not understand the term; therefore, it's wording is vague. But if all scripture is "the direct word from Christ," them we'd best conclude Christ knows what Paul is talking about, and we'd best understand it in context that there are many who will never know of Christ in their mortal lifetime. Are they to be ignored and written out of the Book of Life?

No, this has naught to do with a flat earth. So?

As you are fond of saying: Begin.
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Barring you quoting: "they understood that spherical shadow engulfing the moon was the Earth ...." does not show the earth spherical as a globe, but can only show it as a flat shadowed circle surface
I agree that the Earth's shadow on the moon is 2d and so better described as circular.

like Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures stated herewith: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."  (Isaiah 40:22).  
The Book of Isaiah predates Alexander- Greek astronomers would not have had much influence on that book but by Jesus' time, the scientific city of Alexandra hosted the largest Jewish population in the world and educated people were taught and understood the proofs that Earth was a ball about 25000 mile in diameter.  They understood why the constellations change from latitude to latitude.  No, we don't discredit earlier scientists just because they don't have the whole picture.  If we did that no scientist would maintain much credit for long.

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.Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,


YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR SORROWFUL POST #77: “You quote Ezekiel 7:2 and Isaiah 11:12 and have them with 2 different translations and yet the Hebrew for the two phrases is identical. So I guess you like interpretations when they suit you. You aren't very good at this, are you?”

OMG! Look at your poor diminutive post #77 that looks as though you are still gasping for air since it has been knocked out of you because I easily Bible Slapped you Silly®️ with biblical FACTS and HISTORICITY in the following linked posts!  Sorry. :(


ROSENDS, listen, you can still try and grasp for the life-raft from your sinking ship in the topics we are discussing at this time, but, because of said topics that you are floundering around upon like a fish out of water, we have noticed that your quotes are getting weaker, weaker, and weaker, smaller and smaller, and less substance and more non sequitur to TRY and save what validity you have left within this forum. What is even worse for you, is the fact that Jesus and I haven't even started with showing this forum in how utterly Hebrew Tanakh Bible stupid and ignorant you truly are.  Chain up!!!


ROSENDS, in the meantime, you have a lot of catching up to do in addressing my following links below where you just happen to run away from them to obviously save yourself even further embarrassment in front of the membership, tsk, tsk, tsk.  




(your child like bereft post #77 doesn’t even come close to a refutation of my post #74, because you failed to realize that when you briefly took said passages literally, then you agreed the earth was flat in Isaiah 11:12!  Whoops! Ouch!)

READY?

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Do you not understand logic?

A=B
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B=C
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P1: Earth is round
P2: God does not lie
C: God does not claim Earth is not round (as that would be a lie)

End of story! 

Deny either premise, explain why and then we can talk.
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LISTEN UP!  This is the THIRD time I have asked you to address the link below before I can continue with your total BIBLE IGNORANCE, GET IT?

Now, if you can't address this link below and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath, then get another Hell bound "coin flipping" Agnostic to do it for you, understood?


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Benjamin,

YOUR QUOTE: "Also, you claim that God is lying when he says that the Earth is flat, which is obviously not the case --- we literally have images proving the Earth is round as I showed before."

Refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying relative to the earth being flat. Your statement that we have images showing the earth is not flat, is irrelevant because you are being anachronistic, whereas Yahweh/Jesus says it is flat!  In turn, are you calling Yahweh/Jesus a LIAR???!!!  BLASPHEME!

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This quote of yours can't be addressed -- it literally makes no claims to which I could respond. Please explain exactly what you want me to do, what kind of "response" do you want. I am not running away I am merely baffled by the incoherence of your statements. YOU CLAIM GOD SAID EARTH WAS FLAT, yet you call my quote blaspheme. Now that could only make sense if you deny evidence proving Earth is round -- yet you have done no such thing. If anything, brother, it is YOU who are being blasphemic by admitting:
Refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying
YOU, BROTHERDTHOMAS, HAS ADMITTED THAT YOU CALL GOD A LIAR! Please explain yourself.
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When I took them literally? Wasn't your whole point that I needed to prove the validity of my not taking them literally. Please clarify.

Also, just because you don't understand my answers doesn't mean they aren't answers. It just shows your ignorance. 

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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God, 

WOW! Maybe because of your "coin flipping Agnosticism," where you do not know in what to think about God, you take this notion into TRYING to communicate with a TRUE Christian like myself! Jesus H. Christ, let me try again for the LAST TIME, okay?

Regarding my post #65 AGAIN FOR THE 4TH TIME!:

1. FIRST AND FOREMOST, refresh my memory when I said that my serial killer Yahweh/Jesus was lying relative to the earth being flat."  Now, pay attention, this is the point of showing me a post link in where I actually said this, get it?  SHOW ME THE LINK!

2. " Your statement that we have images showing the earth is not flat, is irrelevant because you are being anachronistic..."   Now, this is the time where you were to look the meaning of "Anachronistic" to understand of what I am saying to you,  After looking up the definition of said word, then you are to realize that you are taking todays knowledge back into a time where the Bible thought of the earth being flat. Therefore oil and water don't mix, GET IT?

3.  "are you calling Yahweh/Jesus a LIAR???!!!  Within context, you were calling Jesus a LIAR when you failed to realize the term "Anachronistic,"and what it meant, and by paraphrasing, you said that the earth is shown to be a globe which is irrelative to the Bible in the earth being FLAT!  DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

Now, address the above 3 propositions, otherwise I DO NOT have the time to play "word games" with your Bible ignorance and you not having the understanding of certain words, where you obviously DO NOT understand simple English!  

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Anachronistic as a term used by you to justify factual mistakes in the Bible necessarily assumes that the author of the Bible was writing as if he did not know the true shape of the Earth. YOU claim that the author of the Bible is God and that therefore we ought to regard as fact anything the Bible says -- yet if that is the case then the word anarchroistic is not a valid defence for the Bible implying the Earth being flat -- because God obviously knows the Earth is round, and he also knew that at the time the Bible was written.


Thus, your defence is invalid.

  • Do you claim the Bible does not tell us the Earth is flat?
  • Do you claim that God is a liar?
  • Or do you admit that the Bible is not written by God?
Either way, your logic is far more flawed than my English knowledge.
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.Rosends, ungodly rewriter of the Hebrew Bible and other Jewish writings, and runaway from Jewish biblical axioms, calls His Yahweh God a LIAR, and now doesn’t know when to quit to save himself from further embarrassment within this forum,

YOUR FEEBLE QUOTE IN YOUR POST # 84 ONCE AGAIN, LOL!: "When I took them literally? Wasn't your whole point that I needed to prove the validity of my not taking them literally. Please clarify."

OMG! We can see that you are still recovering from me Bible Slapping you Silly®️ in the links below because you are still running away from them, where what you "thought you knew, you didn't," at your continued embarrassing expense.  I am truly sorry that you are still wiping the egg from your face relative to you being made the Tanakh Bible fool in the links below, really I am! 



ROSENDS, Jesus H. Christ, can your posts get any weaker than your post #84 shown above?  YES, because Jesus and I plan on making your posts weaker, weaker, and weaker than they are at this time in my forthcoming posts to you relative to the topics in question that we are discussing!  


ROSENDS, now this is how it works in a discussion upon this forum, you don't get something for nothing, therefore you are to address ALL, I repeat, ALL of my post #80 shown in the following link before I respond to your child like mournful posts.   BEGIN: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6088-does-the-bible-teach-a-flat-earth?page=4&post_number=80

Membership, are all Jewish people as biblically dumbfounded of their faith as Rosends is at this time, that is until I continue to school him to be correct?  Enquiring minds want to know!

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Benjamin, the "fence sitting" Agnostic, who's only true position is that he doesn't have one relative to God, 

Cutting to the chase for the last time in addressing your feeble convoluted and weak propositions in your post # 86, and before, since you NEVER produced the link, where it had to be prior to my post #65 for obvious reasons, where you told me that I was calling Jesus a liar relative to the earth being flat, whereas you forgot for the 5TH TIME in showing me the link in question, therefore Jesus and I are DONE WITH YOU! 

I have no more time for your insolence to my request shown above, like I said in my post #85,  that sets the stage to continue!  What happened, didn't the link exist in the first place, LIAR!



Benjamin, but, if you have the nerve and can find your big boy pants, I will discuss your comical "coin flipping" Agnosticism, where I promise you that you will have a notable outcome! Scared?  We'll see. LOL


NEXT?

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Are you expecting me to go through the gospel quotes? That's not going to happen. I went through the tanach ones already, all of them, one at a time. When do you plan on responding to what I said? 
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I'm in the mountains for a few days. If you feel like you want to man up and deal with the facts that I presented, the answers I have given and the questions I have asked you, feel free. If all you want to do is to continue hiding, evading, dodging and running, repeating the same ignornace, then feel free, but I can't help you if you don't know how to read the answers already given. I'll move on to help people who actually care to learn.