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What is your favorite piece of scripture and why? 
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Revelations 22:20 - "He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus."

Cause I think it demonstrates how bullshit the bible is all in one place. Very convenient. In all seriousness, it does seem to me that the fact that Jesus said he'd be back before the end of his apostle's lives and this verse both show that no, Jesus isn't coming back. 

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"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."  John 14: 27

This has taught me that peace is so much more than the mere absence of war. It is a positive attitude that shapes my well being and my entire life. In his peace is the Savior's wrapped arms around me that leaves me assured I am never alone, and never lacking his love. What joy that sweetness brings.
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Psalm 38:7
King James Version
7 For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh.
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"Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good." — Romans 12:9
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What is your favorite piece of scripture and why? 

Mathew 22:9 in part.  Jesus replied [to the Sadducees], "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures........."


why? 

Because it sums up every  Pastor and Priest that I have ever had the pleasure to discuss these contradictory, vague, unreliable, ambiguous half stories that make up the scriptures- with.


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Revelations 22:20 - "He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus."

Cause I think it demonstrates how bullshit the bible is all in one place. Very convenient. In all seriousness, it does seem to me that the fact that Jesus said he'd be back before the end of his apostle's lives and this verse both show that no, Jesus isn't coming back. 
Rubbish. You are wrong. You don't understand the nature of the Second Comin as discussed on the linked thread
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I have many that deal with different subjects, but a few in dealing with unbelievers because they deal with the nature of unbelief, a faulty worldview structure.

Matthew 7:24-29 (NASB)
The Two Foundations
24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and [a]acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell and the [b]floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not [c]act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell and the [d]floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and its collapse was great.”
28 [e]When Jesus had finished these words, the crowds were amazed at His teaching; 29 for He was teaching them as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.

2 Corinthians 10:3-5 (NASB)
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage battle according to the flesh, 4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but [a]divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. 5 We are destroying arguments and all arrogance raised against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,

Colossians 2:2b-4
resulting in a true knowledge of God’s mystery, that is, Christ Himself, 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4 I say this so that no one will deceive you with persuasive arguments.
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I'd have to disagree there. He said he'd be back before the end of his apostle's lives.... and well, unless you know, like, some 2000 year old dudes?
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I'd have to disagree there. He said he'd be back before the end of his apostle's lives.... and well, unless you know, like, some 2000 year old dudes?
It can be shown that every prophetic event listed in the Olivet Discourse happened by AD 70. That confirms His coming and you, twenty centuries removed, misinterpret the nature of the coming because you don't understand the OT background that Jesus was referencing when He said He would come in His Father's glory. To properly understand this text you have to understand how the Father manifested Himself in glory in the OT. 
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Nah, Jesus said he's be back and the rapture would happen. I mean... you can insert your fanfiction in, but that doesn't change the original text
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Kadin,

MY FAVORITE BIBLE PASSAGE IS HEREWITH: 

“When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.” (Ezekiel 23:18-21)

This revealing passage above was inspired by Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate (1 Thessalonians 2:13), therefore seemingly Jesus was into pornography, especially since He ran around with 12 men?  As the ONLY True Christian upon this esteemed forum, I have to accept the above biblical axiom.

Uh,  are we to find women equal to the one in said passage above and partake of their sexual actions as shown because of the following verse: “He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” (Luke 11:28)

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Nah, Jesus said he's be back and the rapture would happen. I mean... you can insert your fanfiction in, but that doesn't change the original text

Nice.

Which is what the devout Christians continually attempt to do when they rewrite and put words into the mouths of the authors and biblical characters that make up these scriptures. Indeed, one Bible ignorant fool believes that if we don't understand the scriptures in their "original Greek" then we will never understand what the scriptures are talking about at all.

And  I say fool because just in that one retarded comment he had obviously didn't realise that he just rendered every single bible ever written in the English language pointless and obsolete. 
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Nah, Jesus said he's be back and the rapture would happen. I mean... you can insert your fanfiction in, but that doesn't change the original text
Where did He speak of a "rapture?"

Again, for the second time to you, what did Jesus mean when He said He would come in the glory of the Father? What does that statement mean? Please explain what that meant. You reference a verse of Scripture, Matthew 16:28, then you back away from explaining what it means. Here is your comment again:

YOU: "He said he'd be back before the end of his apostle's lives.... and well, unless you know, like, some 2000 year old dudes?

And that quote of yours is not what He said. He said that "some" of them would not taste death, not all of them. 

So, what is the nature of His coming? 
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Nah, Jesus said he's be back and the rapture would happen. I mean... you can insert your fanfiction in, but that doesn't change the original text

Nice.

Which is what the devout Christians continually attempt to do when they rewrite and put words into the mouths of the authors and biblical characters that make up these scriptures. Indeed, one Bible ignorant fool believes that if we don't understand the scriptures in their "original Greek" then we will never understand what the scriptures are talking about at all.

And  I say fool because just in that one retarded comment he had obviously didn't realise that he just rendered every single bible ever written in the English language pointless and obsolete. 
First, I find what you do is very sly. You make a derogatory comment about someone without including their name in the Receivers box. That means that I might never have noticed this post and been given a chance to respond to it. 

Second, I have shown those who are interested in the subject that you are Scripturally illiterate. You don't understand the culture of the time, thus the audience that Jesus was addressing and what such as statement as "coming in the glory of the Father" meant to them. You never countered my argument by showing you knew what Jesus was speaking about. Instead, you took your 21st-century understanding and applied it back then. You demonstrate you have little understanding of the background that Jesus refers to. Jesus and the NT writers continually referenced the OT.


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First of all, it obviously isn't a quote - if it were a quote then it'd be in quotation marks, second of all - um... again - do you have any several thousand year old guys - because practically speaking it doens't matter if "some" of them would taste death, that means some of them wouldn't, therefore meaning that some of them would live, its quite apparent there. 

And no - I am not talking about Mathews, I'm talking about revelations - Revalations 1:7 - "Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen."

So... yeah, its pretty hard to misinterpret that bud. 
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YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen."

In Jesus' inspired words above, and when it is stated "and every eye will see him" proves beyond any doubt that the Earth is flat and not a sphere, as it so states in this passage:  "After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree." (Revelation 7:1).  

Every eye cannot see Jesus arriving if the earth was a sphere, but ONLY when it is flat, praise!

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I don't have a favorite I'd say, but read this recently.
Makes me think about what and how people hold certain things sacred / value them.

Isaiah 44
The Lord, Not Idols
6 “This is what the Lord says—
    Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
    apart from me there is no God.
7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
    Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
    and what is yet to come—
    yes, let them foretell what will come.
8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
    Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
    No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”
9 All who make idols are nothing,
    and the things they treasure are worthless.
Those who would speak up for them are blind;
    they are ignorant, to their own shame.
10 Who shapes a god and casts an idol,
    which can profit nothing?
11 People who do that will be put to shame;
    such craftsmen are only human beings.
Let them all come together and take their stand;
    they will be brought down to terror and shame.
12 The blacksmith takes a tool
    and works with it in the coals;
he shapes an idol with hammers,
    he forges it with the might of his arm.
He gets hungry and loses his strength;
    he drinks no water and grows faint.
13 The carpenter measures with a line
    and makes an outline with a marker;
he roughs it out with chisels
    and marks it with compasses.
He shapes it in human form,
    human form in all its glory,
    that it may dwell in a shrine.
14 He cut down cedars,
    or perhaps took a cypress or oak.
He let it grow among the trees of the forest,
    or planted a pine, and the rain made it grow.
15 It is used as fuel for burning;
    some of it he takes and warms himself,
    he kindles a fire and bakes bread.
But he also fashions a god and worships it;
    he makes an idol and bows down to it.
16 Half of the wood he burns in the fire;
    over it he prepares his meal,
    he roasts his meat and eats his fill.
He also warms himself and says,
    “Ah! I am warm; I see the fire.”
17 From the rest he makes a god, his idol;
    he bows down to it and worships.
He prays to it and says,
    “Save me! You are my god!”
18 They know nothing, they understand nothing;
    their eyes are plastered over so they cannot see,
    and their minds closed so they cannot understand.
19 No one stops to think,
    no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,
“Half of it I used for fuel;
    I even baked bread over its coals,
    I roasted meat and I ate.
Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?
    Shall I bow down to a block of wood?”
20 Such a person feeds on ashes; a deluded heart misleads him;
    he cannot save himself, or say,
    “Is not this thing in my right hand a lie?”

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The one that is sitting on top of the burning pile of books - and because such writing is not worth the paper it is written on. 
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. You don't understand the culture of the time, thus the audience that Jesus was addressing and what such as statement as "coming in the glory of the Father" meant to them.

And to his annoyance, neither did  disciples understand a word Jesus said, if we are to believe the scriptures ,- BUT YOU DO? !!!!!! some 2000+ years after Jesus is said to have walked the earth!!!!? 





You never countered my argument by showing you knew what Jesus was speaking about.

 I did. I said that you regurgitating unreliable and ambiguous cherry picked verses   from the same unreliable and ambiguous source is not proof of anything,



Instead, you took your 21st-century understanding and applied it back then.

 "Every eye will see him" return,  says the bible, but not a single written record. 



You demonstrate you have little understanding of the background that Jesus refers to.

Your opinion of what you think I do or don't know, isn't proof that you have proof. 


Jesus and the NT writers continually referenced the OT.

 Yes they did.  And the reason they did this was to make the OT prophesies  ` fit` their own narrative and agenda and candidate.  

But lets no derail someone else's  thread with anymore of your nonsense.

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ou don't understand the culture of the time, thus the audience that Jesus was addressing and what such as statement as "coming in the glory of the Father" meant to them.

And to his annoyance, neither did  disciples understand a word Jesus said, if we are to believe the scriptures ,- BUT YOU DO? !!!!!! some 2000+ years after Jesus is said to have walked the earth!!!!? 
I laugh at why you make such a silly statement.  It is obvious that Jesus' disciples did not understand.  We all know that. They did not understand until Jesus has apparently been raised from the dead. And this made all of the difference. Do you just ignore that? Of course you do.  Sorry forgot you are an ignoramanus.  Get with the program. At least try and understand what Christians believe and why before you try and belittle them.  

You never countered my argument by showing you knew what Jesus was speaking about.

 I did. I said that you regurgitating unreliable and ambiguous cherry picked verses   from the same unreliable and ambiguous source is not proof of anything,

Oh that is right.  when challenged don't respond with intelligent answers - just pretend the other side is cherry picking.  Because then you save face - well at least you think so - well done Freak face.  You lose again,

Instead, you took your 21st-century understanding and applied it back then.

 "Every eye will see him" return,  says the bible, but not a single written record. 

What a funny guy you are freak face.    Again rather than addressing the obvious - you attempt to change the topic.  Loser. 

You demonstrate you have little understanding of the background that Jesus refers to.

Your opinion of what you think I do or don't know, isn't proof that you have proof. 
It has nothing to do with opinion - you demonstrate over and over again how dumb you are.  but hey that is ok. Until you ACTUALLY provide a proof - you just speak spoof.  Just like a freak face is expected to speak. 

Jesus and the NT writers continually referenced the OT.

 Yes they did.  And the reason they did this was to make the OT prophesies  ` fit` their own narrative and agenda and candidate.  

But lets no derail someone else's  thread with anymore of your nonsense.
Or it might just be because their understanding was completely understandable to anyone who was not an ignoramus.   As for derailing threads - you seem to be the most proficient of all of us.  
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 It is obvious that Jesus' disciples did not understand.

 I laugh when people profess to understand in the 21st century what even the bible says the  disciples of Jesus couldn't understand1st century.  
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So for the record then, dear Freak face, you admit to laughing at yourself:

And to his annoyance, neither did  disciples understand a word Jesus said, if we are to believe the scriptures ,- BUT YOU DO? !!!!!! some 2000+ years after Jesus is said to have walked the earth!!!!? https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6063/post-links/263552


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First of all, it obviously isn't a quote - if it were a quote then it'd be in quotation marks, second of all - um... again - do you have any several thousand year old guys - because practically speaking it doens't matter if "some" of them would taste death, that means some of them wouldn't, therefore meaning that some of them would live, its quite apparent there. 

Where do you get the several thousand years from? Jesus said some standing there would not die UNTIL they saw the Son coming into His kingdom. How do you get a two-thousand-year-old guy from that text, and once again, what did Jesus mean when He said He would come in the glory of the Father. In the OT, how did the Father come in glory in the OT Scriptures? Where did Jesus say some of them would not taste death? You read into Scripture something it does not disclose. 

Matthew 16:28 (NASB)
28 “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.

Tell me, what did Jesus mean when He said He would come in the Father's glory. Both you and Stephen are stalling in answering. 

And no - I am not talking about Mathews, I'm talking about revelations - Revalations 1:7 - "Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen."

So... yeah, its pretty hard to misinterpret that bud. 
Nice switch! You never identified what you were speaking of and when you speak of "not tasting death," you refer to a specific verse. The verse of Scripture that talks about some "not tasting death" is Matthew 16:28. 

As for Revelation 1:7, it speaks to an Old Covenant people who do not exist in a covenant after AD 70. Are you aware that the people who pierced Jesus God attributes to the Jews? Thus, the prophecy would have to be fulfilled before AD 70. I believe neither you nor Stephen know enough about Scripture to make a correct interpretation. 
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PGA2.0,

When are you going to stand up for your Satanic Preterist Faith and actually start a thread upon it, where you can tell 99.99 percent of pseudo-christians that don't follow your FRAUDULENT Preterism faith that they are "Whistling Dixie" in their beliefs relative to Jesus' forthcoming 2nd coming? Whereas to you and your ungodly division of Christianity, Jesus already made His 2nd coming in 70 AD, and therefore non Preterists have absolutely NOTHING to look forward too!

What gives, can't you find your "big boy" pants and perform this simple act of defending your comical faith with its own thread? 

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I forget about names and all that, haven't looked at this stuff for a couple years now... but something about talents. If you have talents, don't burry them... use them to get more and give back to the world. That has always been my favorite from the Bible. 
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Ah, I remember that one.
I feel a bit sorry for the servant punished, who simply buried his talents, being an underachiever myself.

Though I suppose if there had been an expectation stated in the beginning, about the servants being expected to grow, rather than simply safe-hold their master's wealth, I'd have felt less sorry.
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No.... see - I know what I'm referring to because I said the thing - you can pretend you know what I mean when I say things but unless you can demonstrate that all you have is assertions. Jesus quite literally means that he'll come back and raise up the Christians - you can switch it up all you like, but I haven't stalled once. You've been disingenuous, there is a difference bud. 
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No.... see - I know what I'm referring to because I said the thing - you can pretend you know what I mean when I say things but unless you can demonstrate that all you have is assertions. Jesus quite literally means that he'll come back and raise up the Christians - you can switch it up all you like, but I haven't stalled once. You've been disingenuous, there is a difference bud. 
What do you want me to make of this? What is the context? It makes no sense to me. 
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PGA2.0,

When are you going to stand up for your Satanic Preterist Faith and actually start a thread upon it, where you can tell 99.99 percent of pseudo-christians that don't follow your FRAUDULENT Preterism faith that they are "Whistling Dixie" in their beliefs relative to Jesus' forthcoming 2nd coming? Whereas to you and your ungodly division of Christianity, Jesus already made His 2nd coming in 70 AD, and therefore non Preterists have absolutely NOTHING to look forward too!

What gives, can't you find your "big boy" pants and perform this simple act of defending your comical faith with its own thread? 

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He won't be doing that anytime soon Brother. He claimed once that he already done so, but then failed to produce the link to his  non existent thread. And the only reason he has no opposition -  on my own thread https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5599-no-show  is simply because theist who believe he is wrong  simply do not want to agree with me.  Which only shows the pigheaded and ignorance of theists that will cut off their noses to spite their faces.