Hey, Oro! How ya been?
But the police are never in possession of all the facts at the time of arrest
Well, they were able to discern that the suspect was on some type of drug. They incorrectly thought he was on PCP because of his erratic behavior. Apparently, he was just drunk. I'm not saying that the criminal record was relevant to the arrest conduct, simply that two lifelong criminals were saints to similar movements.
You know the funny thing? Had Rodney King simply laid on the ground instead of resisting arrest, he would have left the whole incident perfectly safe. Had George got in the car when asked, he would have been fine as well (except for, ya know, the fentanyl). I'm beginning to sense another pattern between these two cases: don't resist arrest and you'll be fine 99.99% of the time! Thanks for helping me discover more similarities.
Solano is now one of the highest ranking officers in LAPD.
Sounds like there are benefits to trying to convict your buddies in a post-LA Riot Los Angeles. Pretty sucky place to live now, too.
Let's note that bmdrocks21 is taking the perps word for it in spite of overwhelming contradicting testimony by more objective witnesses.
Duly noted.
The defendent officers claim "charging" but most other testified "fleeing" King testified that he was simply trying to survive electroshock and would not ascribe any intent to any of his actions after the tasers hit him.
"members of the jury said this cut footage was essential to their decision to acquit the officers, who had claimed this step represented the first of a charge at them". The jury decided to acquit because of the footage cut out of the beginning. They decided to acquit based on evidence that most of the rioting public was not even aware of.
That was another connection to the recent trial. Similarly, the general public did not see the full arrest in the Floyd case. They didn't see that he was given multiple chances to comply and that's why more aggressive measures were used.
Let it be known that Oromagi is taking the word of King, who has a strong incentive to say he wasn't charging at officers. He knew he would "survive" considering that his friends were allowed to leave with little incident after they complied with police orders.
Here is the whole of the video
I am not going to pretend that Chauvin and the LAPD reacted perfectly. They probably did hit him a few more times than they should have (a couple past the 50 second mark were when it appeared he was not trying to get up), but you'll notice that during the vast majority of the blows, he is trying to rise to his feet. Considering they thought he was combative and charged them, you would think they would not want a big violent guy on drugs getting back on his feet, wouldn't you?
- Koons improperly took over the arrest of King.
Wikipedia said he was the ranking officer at the scene, so I'm not sure that's true.
Lets also recall that although Allen and Helms did not resist arrest in any way both also received multiple injuries from Powell and Wind. The fact that neither is even mentioned in any LAPD report on the night reveals much about the officer's culpability and intent.
One had a laceration. One was supposedly kicked. Very minor, but should not have happened, considering it sounds like they were compliant.
They were charged but not convicted because the trial was moved to SImi Valley, which is known as "Copland" in LA and considered the most racist white enclave in So. Cal.
Wasn't aware of that. Will have to look into it.
- In fact, the hospital found
And would have had at worst a laceration if he had simply complied like his friends. But he had to try to charge them or "flee" and continue to try to get up. Yeah, he got beat up badly and ideally that should not happen during arrests, but he kept trying to get up when he clearly should not have. You mention taser burns, so obviously the taser did not work. They did not really have many other choices here.
We need not wonder whether the LAPD knew they'd done Rodney King wrong that night because they covered up their crimes.
You seem quick to ascribe motives to the police but not to Rodney. I wonder why that is. Assuming they bragged about it to nurses (I didn't see that, but I'll take your word for it), do you think they would brag about committing what they had believed to be a crime to random people? Probably not. So, since they probably did not believe they did anything wrong, then why would they make a report?
So then you would argue that the rioters who attacked the US Capitol on Jan 6th ought to have been constrained by massed volleys of deadly force? I don't think would have de-escalated the situation very effectively.
I would say that the national guard should have been called in. I don't, however, see a need for deadly force in that situation. The only damage was really related to breaking and entering. Contrast that with the BLM riots in which stores were looted of all valuables (destroying livelihoods of private citizens) and many buildings were burnt to the ground. The violence was not even comparable to what was seen at the Capitol. The only "violence" was on the part of the police by shooting a woman in the neck. Contrast that with the hundreds or thousands of brutal beatings and over ten murders that happened in the BLM riots.
Let's recall that Pat Buchanan lost all credibility on the subjects of force, justice, and morality when he called for an instant trial and public hanging (lynching) in Central Park of the Central Park Five (all black and hispanic 14 and 15 years olds) in 1989. All five served long prison sentences for rape before being exonerated in 2002.
They all confessed to one of the most heinous crimes and then later took it back. Looking back now, I'm sure it is easy to say "how could people say something bad about what should have been done to them" when they believed that they gang raped a woman. Can't speak for Trump, I'm here to defend Buchanan.
And the difference is, they waited for the trial and did not raze businesses to the ground.
