looks like trump was right again
U.S. Intel Walks Back Claim Russians Put Bounties on American Troops
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@Dr.Franklin
looks like trump was right again
Just goes to show you that the left and their allies were scared shitless by the idea of Trump getting re-elected.
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@ILikePie5
yeah of course there was, trump was the greatest threat to the establishment
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@Dr.Franklin
I still don't understand: even if they were putting bounties on our troops, why isn't that more reason to leave? Don't we want to keep the troops safe?
A broken clock is right twice a day
Sounds about right for leftist propaganda.
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@bmdrocks21
good point
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@dustryder
A broken clock is right twice a day
He was the most accurate broken clock we've had in decades
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@Dr.Franklin
looks like trump was right again
Right about what? The reporting was that Trump was briefed on this back in February last year and did nothing about it, which is as far as we know all true. It was clear when the story broke that this wasn’t definite, and that wasn’t the point. Trump’s handling of this story afterward is what made this such a big story because it shows, as Trump always does, that he doesn’t care about these kinds of things.
Trump’s handling of this story...
So the best leaders are the ones that can spin a tale. No wonder liberal cities are burning.
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@Double_R
right about calling the intel a hoax, which it was
THE MSM created a story and trump handled it the way he always does- he told the fucking truth
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@Greyparrot
So the best leaders are the ones that can spin a tale.
No genius, the best leaders are ones who take threats to their troops seriously, regardless of whether they turn out to be true after they leave office.
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@Dr.Franklin
right about calling the intel a hoax, which it was
Do you even know what the word hoax means? Clearly not. Hint: it’s not when the intelligence community gets something wrong.
THE MSM created a story and trump handled it the way he always does- he told the fucking truth
No, the MSM reported on what was in Trump’s intel briefings that we all know he doesn’t read, and Trump reacted to it not the way any normal president would have - by ensuring the country that he takes these kinds of threats seriously - but by doing what he always does, making it about himself and how everyone is always out to get him.
But this thread is proof of why he does that.
I agree the media ran way too far with this story. They have gotten into the habit of just taking what people say and reporting it as fact. And that is really shitty.
But in this case, the big problem wasn't the "russian bounties" per se. It was that trump didn't do anything about it. Any other president in the history of the country would have been briefed on this, then gotten the security agencies to confirm and take precautions. The public probably would never have known that trump was briefed on this because sensible precautions would have been taken and it would have been a complete non story. The reason it was a story, was because trump was briefed on a serious threat (which turned out not to be accurate later) but seemingly did absolutely nothing about it.
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@Double_R
Do you even know what the word hoax means? Clearly not. Hint: it’s not when the intelligence community gets something wrong.
Actually, IT IS when something is completely made up and the liberal elite establishment promote it for their gain
No, the MSM reported on what was in Trump’s intel briefings that we all know he doesn’t read, and Trump reacted to it not the way any normal president would have - by ensuring the country that he takes these kinds of threats seriously - but by doing what he always does, making it about himself and how everyone is always out to get him.But this thread is proof of why he does that.
He reacted to it truthfully. He called what it is- a hoax, he is the trustful man in this story clearly
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@Dr.Franklin
Actually, IT IS when something is completely made up and the liberal elite establishment promote it for their gain
Hoaxes require a willful intent to deceive. You may not like the "liberal elite establishment", but it's clear they were running on the same information that everyone else had at the time - Trump seemingly kowtowing to Russia.
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@Dr.Franklin
Actually, IT IS when something is completely made up and the liberal elite establishment promote it for their gain
They didn’t make it up. They *reported* on the fact that the Intel was in Trump’s briefing and he did nothing in reaction to it. What is so difficult about that? Why do you refuse to understand it?
He reacted to it truthfully. He called what it is- a hoax, he is the trustful man in this story clearly
It wasn’t a hoax and his reaction to this had absolutely nothing to do with the substance of the story. Trump did what Trump always does, attack the messenger. If that is how you judge someone as trustworthy I feel bad for you.
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@Dr.Franklin
Actually, IT IS when something is completely made up and the liberal elite establishment promote it for their gain
Nice straw man. But that isn't what happened. The "liberal elite" didn't make this up. Most likely, an intel agency got this as a tip from sources in Afghanistan. Potentially, coming from the Afgan government who desperately wants the US to stay. So your statement is false.
He reacted to it truthfully. He called what it is- a hoax, he is the trustful man in this story clearly
how is endangering american troops reacting to it "truthfully"? If you get information that someone wants to murder your family, you should take precautions. Even if there is only a small chance it is true, you should look it into it. Trump got intel that the russians were trying to get american troops killed and did absolutely nothing about it. Any moderately intelligent president would have taken some precautions and ordered them to confirm if it was true. Trump however is not an intelligent person.
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@HistoryBuff
involving troops in proxy wars is thousands of times more dangerous than anything else the media lies to you for corporate profit.
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@Greyparrot
involving troops in proxy wars is thousands of times more dangerous than anything else the media lies to you for corporate profit.
That sentence has absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about. We are talking about trump being reckless and ignoring intelligence that American troops were in danger. You can be dedicated to withdrawing American troops from Afghanistan and still take thetas seriously. It would have been easy to take precautions and investigate the threat. Trump chose to ignore it and endanger American troops. It is one of the many, many reasons he was a shitty president.
And I agree that the media ran with this story too much. But they weren't wrong that trump was reckless and endangered American troops.
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@Greyparrot
Do you have any sort of process by which you judge something the media says to be a lie, like say Occam’s Razor, or is that just the default for any story you don’t like?
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@Double_R
Depends on how rich the CEO is.
I don't generally trust rich people unless they give me a VERY good reason to trust them.
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@HistoryBuff
Just putting corporate fear-mongering into perspective mate. You do you.
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@Greyparrot
Just putting corporate fear-mongering into perspective mate. You do you.
lol this is sad. The us president ignored a threat to US troops, and your response is to whine about the media. you really love whataboutism don't you?
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@HistoryBuff
Nah, I just don't have a lifelong raging hard-on about the presidency when Washington DC corporate lobbyists and corporate media run the show.
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@Greyparrot
I don't generally trust rich people unless they give me a VERY good reason to trust them.
What does your trust or lack there of in rich people have to do with it?
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@Double_R
Because almost all rich people are narcissists.
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@Double_R
They didn’t make it up. They *reported* on the fact that the Intel was in Trump’s briefing and he did nothing in reaction to it. What is so difficult about that? Why do you refuse to understand it?
Well it was made up? wasnt it
It wasn’t a hoax and his reaction to this had absolutely nothing to do with the substance of the story. Trump did what Trump always does, attack the messenger. If that is how you judge someone as trustworthy I feel bad for you.
It literally is a hoax, how can YOU not understand that fact, you keep beating around the bush thinking that the media reported it honestly, they didnt- they didnt consider trump was correct and slammed him for all the hoaxes under the sun
Trump was right.
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@Greyparrot
Nah, I just don't have a lifelong raging hard-on about the presidency when Washington DC corporate lobbyists and corporate media run the show.
yeah yeah. I have heard your arguments before. Deflect, distract and straw man. I am familiar with your bag tricks. You want to ignore the raging idiocy of trumps screw ups and point the finger anywhere else. Life is so much simpler when you simply ignore anything you don't want to see isn't it?
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@HistoryBuff
Life is so much simpler when you simply ignore anything you don't want to see isn't it?
You mean like ignoring real history?