Heavy Hitters Mafia D4

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Lynched Last DP:
Speedrace- Dillian Whyte: Despite talking a big game you were easily beaten by AJ and lost in a stunning one shot KO to Povetkin, and he's old as hell. Shut up and know your place as a second tier guy. Vanilla.

Died in the Night:
Supa- Alexander Povetkin: You've challenged for a title before but never won one. You're vanilla. You can contribute to the town with your voice and your vote.


Graveyard
Lunatic- Luis Ortiz, vanilla
Oro- Otto Wallin, Vanilla (hidden deputy)
Whiteflame- Andy Ruiz, cop
Pie- Tyson Fury, role cop


1. Mr. Chris
7. Bringerofrain
8. Greyparrot

With 3 players alive it takes 2 to lynch. The DP will end at 9PM EST Wednesday March 17th.



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hey guys, sorry for the delay
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whelp it's either bullish or Chris...
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100% Bullish. This literally confirms my theory. 

Both Speed and Supa were town, exactly as I predicted.

Anyway, I'm not entirely sold on a Speed lynch but I think Supa's trying which is a good sign. 

Of the people here, I think Bullish (Bringer) is the most likely scum candidate for reasons I've given before but are now enhanced:

  • Town has 2 cop roles. Scum need a powerful role to counter them (role cop is weak in utility to scum), and while Bringer was investigated innocent, him being a godfather is just about the only thing that makes sense here.
  • Bringer had spent the entire game lynch hopping and using extremely flimsy logic to push wagons. 
  • Bringer continually retracted statements as behavioral tests or jokes
  • His revealing of Supa as innocent seems to be an attempt to win "town confirmation," and he uses the result to narrow down his scum reads to me and Speed (I know I'm town, and while Speed could be scum I'm thinking he's town too). Scum only need a few mislynches to win this now, so this adds up.
  • Bringer spent the entire time when I was scum with him bussing me. Pie has spent entire games bussing his scum partner too. This seems like the obvious strategy they would come up with.
  • Warren seemed desperate to replace Bringer, and I suspect, had the DP's length gone up before he was replaced, TOWN would have automatically won. 
  • All Bullish had to do to claim vanilla just now was scroll back through Bringer's post history and see what Bringer claimed. I don't buy that as evidence of TOWNhood.
VTL Bullish/Bringer.

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Please vote. If town loses this I'm going to be so pissed. We have this in the bag. 
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Bullish?
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He seems uninvested since he knows we've got him pinned through POE.
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Notice how the first thing Bullish tried to do last DP was earn some ignorant town points by asking how many scum were left. 

Also notice how he threw a vote at you, then me, and then Speed in a few hours. Clearly just trying to get the mislynch and be done with it. 
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He hasn't been on DART in 14 hours. I'm 100% sure Bullish knew he'd be caught this DP and just checked out. 
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I didn't read the game so idk, theres no case to be made.

Do your thing grey

VTL Chris
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Bullish's response here pretty much confirms everything I've been saying.
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VTL CHRIS
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y u betray me
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Lol
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Do your thing grey.

very persuasive.
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What was the reason you voted Chris 😂
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POE

I was just waiting for Bullish to get on and vote.
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Why did you tell me to kill you and you didn't kill me?
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POE

I was just waiting for Bullish to get on and vote.
Good lol, I was losing faith in humanity
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Why did you tell me to kill you and you didn't kill me?
Well DP1 you were a prime Watcher/Doctor target so we didn’t want to risk it. If we targeted you NP2 your shot still would’ve gone through.

The game imo was unbalanced af. We got this close cause I took 3 townies with me with the Princess claim
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Pie none of the cop results are worth much as they could go to scum. Not sure why people didn’t consider that, and it totally coulda bit town in the ass
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(Chris was guilty, will have full endgame up later)
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Pie none of the cop results are worth much as they could go to scum. Not sure why people didn’t consider that, and it totally coulda bit town in the ass
The statistical odds odds of that were less than 20% lol