Heavy Hitters Mafia D3

And looking at it now, Oromagi saying that makes absolute sense with his role that he has

Had to be done as what he did before was inexcusable

There is no feasible way that I can be scum.

I hard scum read Pie from the start. In an 8 person game with in theory, 2 mafia. That would mean I would trust that I can take this game to 2 v 1 without having a role cop. Seems like a lose lose situation. This wasn't even soft tunnel, it was a hard tunnel that I had on Pie from the start.

As mafia, you want to secure yourself the best odds to wins. I didn't tunnel Pie with the vote because I knew that Grey was going to shoot Pie. If the shot didn't happen, then I would narrow the scum pool down to Grey and Pie.

If I were mafia, I would try my best to force the lynch on Pie so that the vig is less likely to take the shot and i can kill the cop and then vig when the np starts.

I'll give my reads on everyone soon

Only if you’re a liberal w/o a sense of humor. Wylted is a troll.

Highly disagree. Looking at his history I think it was the right move.

All the same, MEEP away

1. There was a huge conversation with Pie and I about his bad reads and bandwagoning on Bringer's logic and constantly sticking to it to hunt for votes. Speed went AWOL for that entire phase, instead, shifting focus onto Greyparrot and neglecting anything with Pie. He also went AWOL in DP1 and only posted around 5 times

extend: Speed also decided to show up dp2 to push a mislynch on oromagi, but when discussions of lynching Pie were on the table, he seemed awol, despite him being active on discord

2. Speed claimed cop and then claimed vanilla to "bait" the NK. This is a scum Speed strategy. Speed will argue he does this as town, but more recently, he has used this tactic when he was scum

3. The vote count, speed was on oromagi with no justification onto being on oromagi. 

1. There was a huge conversation with Pie and I about his bad reads and bandwagoning on Bringer's logic and constantly sticking to it to hunt for votes. Speed went AWOL for that entire phase, instead, shifting focus onto Greyparrot and neglecting anything with Pie. He also went AWOL in DP1 and only posted around 5 times

I'm usually active when I'm scum, and I was debating that weekend. You know I debate every weekend

extend: Speed also decided to show up dp2 to push a mislynch on oromagi, but when discussions of lynching Pie were on the table, he seemed awol, despite him being active on discord

I didn't want to lynch Pie b/c we wanted GP to kill him, what?? No one wanted to lynch him and I told y'all that y'all were dumb for not having GP kill Pie before I saw GP was even night

2. Speed claimed cop and then claimed vanilla to "bait" the NK. This is a scum Speed strategy. Speed will argue he does this as town, but more recently, he has used this tactic when he was scum

I got the cop result and wanted to out it, naturally it makes sense to claim cop in order to do that????? It wasn't really even to bait

3. The vote count, speed was on oromagi with no justification onto being on oromagi. 

We needed to lynch and I agreed that he was being inactive like he usually is as scum

I don't buy the argument of "I'm usually active." You can have a debate tourney and still be scum

But you never scum read him and in DP1, never explicitly scum read Pie and were avoiding topics on Pie despite it having a large context

It isn't affiliation indicative thought. If you got an innocent on someone and not a guilty, why did you even say? Would you out this as a normal cop? 

That's barely a reason

• Town has 2 cop roles. Scum need a powerful role to counter them (role cop is weak in utility to scum), and while Bringer was investigated innocent, him being a godfather is just about the only thing that makes sense here.
  
• Bringer had spent the entire game lynch hopping and using extremely flimsy logic to push wagons. 
  
• Bringer continually retracted statements as behavioral tests or jokes
  
• His revealing of Supa as innocent seems to be an attempt to win "town confirmation," and he uses the result to narrow down his scum reads to me and Speed (I know I'm town, and while Speed could be scum I'm thinking he's town too). Scum only need a few mislynches to win this now, so this adds up.
  
• Bringer spent the entire time when I was scum with him bussing me. Pie has spent entire games bussing his scum partner too. This seems like the obvious strategy they would come up with.
  
• Warren seemed desperate to replace Bringer, and I suspect, had the DP's length gone up before he was replaced, TOWN would have automatically won. 
  
• All Bullish had to do to claim vanilla just now was scroll back through Bringer's post history and see what Bringer claimed. I don't buy that as evidence of TOWNhood.
  

Town has 2 cop roles. Scum need a powerful role to counter them (role cop is weak in utility to scum), and while Bringer was investigated innocent, him being a godfather is just about the only thing that makes sense here.