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@Speedrace
Character * sorry 
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@Speedrace
Did you read what I said? I literally said the justification is that they were weak :|

but how does that even make sense given the info we have from town?
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I think we agree for different reasons. I think most of town are major villans. This one sticks out like a sore thumb. I'd even wager vanilla would be a bigger character 

I would have bought scar but it makes me think he was scared to claim it 

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To add to that. After I called that our he was immediately typing up a storm. I expected a 2 page post. 

He prob felt pressured to claim because he know I was going to type the slip and went with they hyper safe one. 

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Yeah the fact that it's a plurality of characters def doesn't help. 

I don't like the justification at all. We've been told from many people that their justification is that they were a villain that had some good justifications for their actions... Instead, his is basically just saying "you're not good at being a villain therefore you're actually not a villain".... That makes 0 sense. 
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Yeah my character affirms this. 

It was a huge text block saying why I did what I did. Certainly not a grey area character but he spun it as such and the rest are major characters that are claimed

If he flips scum it's probably white flame and he done doofed 



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Not even trying to death tunnel but it's just a lot 

1) the slip saying what he said about whiteflame implying that he knew wf was intending to play diff 

2) the vague character being a sore thumb around all the other main town characters 

3) the vanilla claim 

4) a group of characters. 

And also he pings me as behaviorally off. This is a good science lynch either way because it can show If it's all big characters or not


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If town has a minor character or a group of characters , just type me 


But as of now this is a good target 



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Vtl speed 
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Not to even get into his justification is basically copy pasta from a Google search 
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Vtl him pls. 
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The longer we don't have pressure. The longer they get to develop fuckery 
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iLikePie5- 2 /6- Speedrace, oromagi
Drafter- 1 /6- Greyparrot
Speedrace- 1 /6- Elminster

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To put this out there. I know these often get pegged as schemey af and I'm often wrong blah blah. People look way to often and when I'm wrong and not how often I'm right

Last game I called wf as scum after his first post and had speed identified as his scum partner 2 pages after that which is why speed said he killed me. 

The past 2 weeks in live I have literally reverse engineeried 5/6 games and carried the last call in all of them. Also was the target of every np1 and np2 and was alive because if self docing or protective roles.  Sure when I'm wrong I'm really wrong. But on balance I'm right just as often if not more often. 


Look at his claim, the reason he felt a need to claim, what he claimed , and the justification and compare it to the rest of the characters that have a grey area and in depth justification about why they did what they did. 

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Speed's claim doesn't fit with the "bad guys where were right/justification" theme, but then again we don't know that's the actual theme, it's just what we've deduced with the available information.

That said, if anyone doesn't have a "bad guy that was right/justified" character should speak up, because it looks like Speed is an outlier.

Is he an outlier because that's not the theme or is he an outlier because it is a fake claim?

I'll note that "Speed is always scum" is due a lot of times because he skates by unpressured, though there was that whole boondoggle with him fake claiming a dog in Stand Mafia.

VTL Speed

If no one else has a role to refute the current theme assumption, I'd like Speed just as an outlier.
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I dislike the merit of Speeds claim. For one, he didn't have a fake claim, so he was probably looking for a fake claim to counter that. The hyenas are multiple animals which is so odd for me in general because different animals can have different personalities. It's a weird claim and it's an oddball. 
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Re: drafter  +1

What he said. If there is another outlier that gives credence to that weird claim they need to speak up. But I suspect that it's all main antagonist 



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My top lynch right now is Speed
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What drafter said is true. As an outlier. I believe he should be lynched. 

VTL Speed

If he is telling the truth, Speed is just unfortunate that he got an outlier. Life isn't fair
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Speedrace- 3 /6- Elminster, drafter, supadudz
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@MisterChris
but how does that even make sense given the info we have from town?
Bruh, a justification is what links your role to your character. You're thinking of justifying my actions in my pm. They're completely different
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@Elminster
What he said. If there is another outlier that gives credence to that weird claim they need to speak up. But I suspect that it's all main antagonist 
Negal isn't a main antagonist
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@MisterChris
I don't like the justification at all. We've been told from many people that their justification is that they were a villain that had some good justifications for their actions... Instead, his is basically just saying "you're not good at being a villain therefore you're actually not a villain".... That makes 0 sense. 
NO. I said, I was weak, therefore I am a vanilla. I am NOT talking about the way Lunatic justified my actions
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@Speedrace
Negans absolutely a main antagonist for like 3 seasons. And he was liked so much they started to try and turn him good. 

Which is why miller fits. But he's a polarizing figure. My theory is that every other town character is polarizing. Main may be a bad word 
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@Elminster
Negans absolutely a main antagonist for like 3 seasons. And he was liked so much they started to try and turn him good. 
Seasons? LOTR isn't a TV show :|
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@Speedrace
Give a very hard justification and paraphrase.  Big summary
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@Elminster
Was scared to fake claim scar because it could be in the game so went with hyper vague character. 
Also it's blatantly obvious that this isn't true because everyone is from a different movie, so if I had Scar I would actually claim scar :|
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@Elminster
Give a very hard justification and paraphrase.  Big summary
I'm the hyenas, I'm vanilla because I'm weak and couldn't deal with a warthog and a meerkat
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Speed is now trying to flip the blame onto me. I recall a time he did this when he was scum after I pressured him
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@Vader
If he is telling the truth, Speed is just unfortunate that he got an outlier. Life isn't fair
It's not an outlier, you guys just refuse to believe that it's just bad v good :|
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Speed is now trying to flip the blame onto me. I recall a time he did this when he was scum after I pressured him
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