Paranoia Mafia - Day 1

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Cool, at least you know the basics and are active.
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From what you and croc said, ideally you would not claim dp1 unless you are pressured or have a reason to claim. Grey claimed without either. If there is a way that most people play or are expected to play, doing the exact opposite would be suboptimal would it not?
Mainly Grey plays this way to clear himself, when Grey is town he claims early that's the move, it's hard to fake-claim early as mafia. Here it's detrimental for Grey not to claim early because town will think he's mafia for not claiming early, this is an optimal play for Grey
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He plays so sub optimally that it's optimal to play sub optimally. Isn't that exploitable If people always assume that to be the case?
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Also what is a mason?
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There is also a recruiting version.
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I'm not quite sure how to read this and I feel guilty for it but now I certainly town read parrot. 

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There is also a recruiting version.
Recruit me
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I'm not quite sure how to read this and I feel guilty for it but now I certainly town read parrot. 
Don't feel guilty I town read Grey too
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Actually I'm confused. 

Mason is not listed on that list the mod posted?

If mason is listed would not that not confirm parrot?

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I read that as the moderator trying to clarify how a role works in response to what parrot claimed. 

But I don't see mason on that list (assuming he pulled the roles in this game from there)

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You don't have to assume I pulled roles from this game from there. I'm literally telling you I pulled roles from this game in there.

Mason is on that list (row 107).
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Thank you

For whatever reason it stops at 57 for me 

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grey plays like that, he always claims first and thats a town read slightly

dw everyone has there own unique style you'll recognize over time
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Looks like other people have addressed your questions.

As for my reads at the moment, I agree that Greyparrot looks like town, as does Elminster.
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Convert me to mason, if you die I'm mafia, if you live I'm town.
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okay
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@whiteflame
Looks like other people have addressed your questions.

As for my reads at the moment, I agree that Greyparrot looks like town, as does Elminster.
I agree with the Greyparrot read. It would be very stupid to fake claim a Mason. 

I think Elminster is still null just cause noobs are hard to read and the fact that he has played this style before albeit in person
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Ty Grey
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A meta is a norm. It's a style of play that is associated with that person. Hence, a meta
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Elminister is a slight town. I think his unawareness and confusion is noob town because he questions lots of things and his use of suboptimal and challenging Grey on a meta
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Metas are a popular way to “read” people.
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One limited speaking. Ones participation affected. One watching. - Lunatic
Guys, you go into a game called PARANOIA MAFIA and proceed to completely ignore the first cryptic message? Come on

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@Lunatic
I assume you have limited speaking? If possible, please say your role or the row number of your role in the mafia list
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I was waiting for someone to bring that up before I mentioned it to see if people were intentionally ignoring it. 
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@Elminster
Ah okay
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@Speedrace
Judging from the list the mod tagged and the title of the game.

Its possible unique rolls exist in this that may mess with roles/results. It's why I was questioning parrot as well. Given the title of the game you think someone would question that immediate claim. I pulled back on this after the exchange with the moderator 

With what the other guy posted I would wager he has some sort of restriction on him. 

Testing something 

Vote to kill lunatic 



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Remove kill lunatic 
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It's vtl lunatic, and you have to bold it