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I believe supas claim and if Lunatic's theory of 1 scum NP0 is correct than Pie must be scum because Warren/that1 was not likely doing anything NP0.
Why would Warren not doing anything absolve him?
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Are we just going to ignore that there are 2 JOATs? This is Speed’s game all over again. 
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With that in mind, I am willing to vote off Pie as well. VTL Pie
So you’ve been sitting on this for the entire DP? Why?
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Are we just going to ignore that there are 2 JOATs? This is Speed’s game all over again. 
Yes.

Do you think supa is scum and lying or is it me? If neither then you should be making a case on oro or warren right about now, as the dreamer results implicate you.
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Are we just going to ignore that there are 2 JOATs? This is Speed’s game all over again. 

No, we're not. Lunatic, what is your character & your justification? 
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What was Supa’s motive in sitting on his results for over a day into the DP?
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No need to give gritty details about your powers... But I would at least like a character claim. 
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Yes.
Well that’s pretty dumb

Do you think supa is scum and lying or is it me? If neither then you should be making a case on oro or warren right about now, as the dreamer results implicate you.
Yes I think Supa is scum. What is his motive for sitting on his result for more than a day? 
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Lack of confidence and information in general. Looking at your behavior in general in this game and from what I believe, I think you are now scum. Looking at the points, it's been using hypotheticals, trying to hop on certain lynches, and uncertainty, along with this policy idea which you do say, but then you drop mid games. It seems you are focused on a policy and just looking for quick lynches
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No need to give gritty details about your powers... But I would at least like a character claim. 
I am the cloud. There;s not really a tangible link from my character to my role, or at least that makes sense to me. Advantages of the cloud include flexibility and easy load balancing, therefor I am the JOAT with the following abilites (redacted)
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Well that’s pretty dumb
His role parallels my abilities, so it makes a lot of sense actually.

Yes I think Supa is scum. What is his motive for sitting on his result for more than a day? 
You and warren have already been the subject of todays lynch interests, if I thought one or the other of you were likely to be lynched, I wouldn't out the result either.
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Lack of confidence and information in general.
What confidence were you lacking? What information were you lacking?

Looking at your behavior in general in this game and from what I believe, I think you are now scum. Looking at the points, it's been using hypotheticals, trying to hop on certain lynches, and uncertainty, along with this policy idea which you do say, but then you drop mid games.
What hypotheticals are you talking about? The one where I talked about optimal strategy? I’ve only been on two people this entire DP and that was Warren from the beginning and then Intel before he even claimed. Policy lynches change with more information. Information you decided to hide from us?

It seems you are focused on a policy and just looking for quick lynches
What quick lynches are you talking about? I was on Warren from the beginning and was Intel to ask him to talk.
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His role parallels my abilities, so it makes a lot of sense actually.
What does that even mean?

You and warren have already been the subject of todays lynch interests, if I thought one or the other of you were likely to be lynched, I wouldn't out the result either.
Supa’s first post was #22 where he specifically said he doesn’t see me as scum. Why did he say that if he knew I was on his results? The whole argument over vanillas hadn’t even happened yet.
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What does that even mean?
What I said...

Supa’s first post was #22 where he specifically said he doesn’t see me as scum. Why did he say that if he knew I was on his results? The whole argument over vanillas hadn’t even happened yet.
I'll let supa answer that. He probably should have, but it is supa were talking about. Also he pushed warren relatively early, by post 60, so likely he was leaning it was warren.

Regardless, you should just claim. If you are a town power role, mafia still have to juggle the kill between me you and supa. One of the three of us is likely to get protection/results off. If you have a convincing enough role I may be able to buy that supa is the scum here.
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How can you say you are confirmable tomorrow beyond a shadow of a doubt? Doesn't just saying that make you a roleblock or night kill target? If you know you can prove yourself, it's likely you are scum and know your action won't be interfered with.
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What I said...
In what way are they parallel? It makes no sense. Are you saying you have some of the same utilities as he does?

How can you say you are confirmable tomorrow beyond a shadow of a doubt? Doesn't just saying that make you a roleblock or night kill target? If you know you can prove yourself, it's likely you are scum and know your action won't be interfered with.
Who’s going to Roleblock me? Intel can’t and neither can Skitlez. Unless you’re saying there’s also a scum RB making there be 3 total RBs in the game. I’ll do the math in a second and optimize the course of action that helps us.
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Conveniently becomes quiet. I’ll rehash my thoughts

If Oro thinks his theory is correct then Intelligence is scum. If he’s the scum recruiter then Skitlez is town. Supa comes out and defends Intel by leaving out certain context. Supa also has Oro on his list

Supa comes out first saying I’m town. He hides his results for more than a day. Then he gives his report claiming JOAT with another JOAT claimed by Lunatic. Only reason Speed had some ground is cause the two people with the same action didn’t have the same role. This is pretty much unprecedented.

Supa also went on some random gibberish about how it was optimal to kill me in the NK or soemthing. He dodged that entire line of questioning if y’all want to go back and read that.
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Opinions are meant to change based on how the game is going. I said I can't see you as scum, I didn't town read you. As the DP progressed you became scummy

I have given my reasoning why I held out. You didn't respond
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@ILikePie5
In what way are they parallel? It makes no sense. Are you saying you have some of the same utilities as he does?
No, opposites. 

Who’s going to Roleblock me? Intel can’t and neither can Skitlez. Unless you’re saying there’s also a scum RB making there be 3 total RBs in the game. I’ll do the math in a second and optimize the course of action that helps us.
I mean prior to supa outting you were operating under the believe he or skittlez was scum, so if you that is true then why wouldn't they roleblock one of the three of us?
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Opinions are meant to change based on how the game is going. I said I can't see you as scum, I didn't town read you. As the DP progressed you became scummy

I have given my reasoning why I held out. You didn't respond
You’re ignoring my response lol. What information did you not have? Why did you think  town shouldn’t know about your investigative results as early as possible?
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Official Vote Count

pie (3/6) - Lunatic, Chris, Supa,
Intel (2/6) - pie, oro,
warren (1/6) - Bear,
Supa (1/6) - Speed,

Not voting: warren, skittle, Intel,

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@Lunatic
No, opposites. 
So complements. How do you complement an Oracle and a Watcher?

I mean prior to supa outting you were operating under the believe he or skittlez was scum, so if you that is true then why wouldn't they roleblock one of the three of us?
I don’t know what you’re trying to say here. If they do try to roleblock me then we can catch them.

Assume we no lynch here. DP3 it’s 6-3. If I’m roleblocked then we can go for Intel. If he’s town then Skitlez is also town and in that scenario you lynch me cause I’m lying and 3 RBs existing is very minimal
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So complements. How do you complement an Oracle and a Watcher?
I'm not going to go into details and give away what abilities I have. But with the abilities he has hos role fits as a perfect puzzle. I doubt there are any other investigative power roles. I am half expecting you to claim one tbh because I'm pretty sure mafoa were given cop as a fake claim lol


I don’t know what you’re trying to say here. If they do try to roleblock me then we can catch them.

Assume we no lynch here. DP3 it’s 6-3. If I’m roleblocked then we can go for Intel. If he’s town then Skitlez is also town and in that scenario you lynch me cause I’m lying and 3 RBs existing is very minimal

It doesn't matter because your scum and caught just trying to live an extra day phase. You are on a result. You need to full claim.
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Omw home from work will be about an hour
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@ILikePie5
Behavioral information. You were somewhat active DP1 so that made me think that you were town with an useless. You started to become active and force lynches based on a policy that doesn't exist. Then when it was revealed there were vanillas. You started talking more. You started fighting with Lunatic about the behavior. You seemed quick to jump on lynch + increase activity. I see no reason to keep you alive
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Also if there is a Doc, please protect me in NP3. I said that I get one more JOAT role between Dreamer and Watcher. I am using my Watcher tomorrow as well
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I'm not going to go into details and give away what abilities I have. But with the abilities he has hos role fits as a perfect puzzle. I doubt there are any other investigative power roles. I am half expecting you to claim one tbh because I'm pretty sure mafoa were given cop as a fake claim lol
I’m what realm does a JOAT’s abilities complement another JOAT’s abilities?

It doesn't matter because your scum and caught just trying to live an extra day phase. You are on a result. You need to full claim.
I’m going to die anyways if I’m wrong. That scenario literally ensures my death if I’m wrong. What does trying to live an extra day have to do with this. I’m not going to claim cause I can get confirmed and I’d rather mafia play a game of chess of what to do. I know I’m town. Mafia can either kill me or RB me. If they do the former the whole thing is moot. If they do the later they’re caught.
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@Vader
Behavioral information. You were somewhat active DP1 so that made me think that you were town with an useless. 
This is literally contradictory to what you’ve said: 

“You were active and contributing enough to where you could be a PR.”
Which is it? I was a useless town cause I wasn’t really active or I was active and therefore am a power role or scum.

You started to become active and force lynches based on a policy that doesn't exist.
Which policies? Warren? That was inactivity. Skitlez? Cause we needed more information. I’ve been consistent about lynching DP1 for as long as I can remember.

Then when it was revealed there were vanillas. You started talking more. You started fighting with Lunatic about the behavior. You seemed quick to jump on lynch + increase activity. I see no reason to keep you alive
Which lynch was I “quick to jump on?” I was already on Warren long before he claimed and I was on Intel before he claimed.


I’m convinced Supa is scum just based on the fact that he’s being contradictory and outright lying about my actions.
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Intel  is probably not scum, he didn't know that the mimic variant was not normal. People are lynching Pie for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Why tf did TWO JOAT's claim?
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Behavioral information. You were somewhat active DP1 so that made me think that you were town with an useless. 
This is literally contradictory to what you’ve said: 

“You were active and contributing enough to where you could be a PR.”
Which is it? I was a useless town cause I wasn’t really active or I was active and therefore am a power role or scum.
But now you're active which is contradictory to your play. You are 

You started to become active and force lynches based on a policy that doesn't exist.
Which policies? Warren? That was inactivity. Skitlez? Cause we needed more information. I’ve been consistent about lynching DP1 for as long as I can remember.
Lynching claimed town as a policy?

Then when it was revealed there were vanillas. You started talking more. You started fighting with Lunatic about the behavior. You seemed quick to jump on lynch + increase activity. I see no reason to keep you alive
Which lynch was I “quick to jump on?” I was already on Warren long before he claimed and I was on Intel before he claimed.


I’m convinced Supa is scum just based on the fact that he’s being contradictory and outright lying about my actions.
First skittlez, then warren, then more warren, then now Intel. You are hopping on the common wagon by bandwagoning on logic. I'm not contradicting. Your behavior this DP has evolved