People who Don't Wear Masks in a Pandemic are Absolute Morons

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I mean come on bro. It doesn't restrict your breathing, it doesn't do anything. Stop thinking you are smarter than guys who have actually researched for years, for looking at google and facebook. 

No it doesn't violate your rights. You are the literal people spreading the pandemic. Why does the US have so many more cases than other countries? Because people dont wear masks. 


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Well, I'd say more people are on board with it 'now, but I think there were a number of mixed messages early on.
People who claimed wearing a mask would 'prevent you from becoming infected, when the truth is it 'helps prevents the infected from infecting others.
And even 'after that misunderstanding was cleared up, some people figured that if they weren't sick, why bother wearing a mask to protect others from nothing,
'Then information came out arguing that some people can be carriers but not sick.

Leadership in America was also on the backfoot in leading by example, and even when the Democrats got on board with it, the 'way they did it, seemed more like political grandstanding and sneaking politics in a time of crisis, than an actual attempt to work with and convince their political counterparts.

Nor have the people who go about the argument to wear masks in a confrontational manner helped, throwing their weight around, jamming their fingers into people's chests and saying OBEY.

I wear a mask in public.
I think other people 'should wear masks,
I think that the law supports it,
Not sure I think people not on board yet are Absolute Morons, maybe just need to be convinced in the right manner, and need our government leading correctly.

I wouldn't say it's the 'only reason Americas done worse,  us being slow on the uptake hasn't helped.
Not like it hasn't happened before,

And I can't say I'm 'fully convinced that masks help much, but I'm convinced most of society acts like they think that.
And I don't have any breathing condition, so, eh.
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Well actually no. I am typing this from one enclosed shelter ran by a capitalist community, and there ain't no clothe above my lips. The fact it is not very big of an' chance for virus to catch several hundreds of meters off the ground, and the fact I have my windows and doors shut, it would make no sense to put on a mask indoors.
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But yes, wearing not a mask outside, where environment of contact will be prone to make you sick is real, would make you ignorant of the outdoor problems.
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Yeah thats what I meant
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It truly depends. There were next to no cases in my county for a long time. No one wore masks. Only recently have cases been mounting. Now, out of courtesy I am more willing to wear a mask when I'm out.  (Also, I agree that it's not unconstitutional to enforce masks in a crisis situation. It's like arguing that the government cannot crack down on public nudity)
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I completely agree.  People wear seat belts, that only save themselves, and don't scream about their rights being violated.   Wearing masks, saves others as well.  No it is not 100%, but even a little is better than nothing.  Stores also say, "No shirt. No shoes. No Service."  People don't complain about their right to go shirtless either.  I realize a store is not the government.  But we seem to have lost the ability to pull together in this pandemic.  It took forever for some people to even stop calling it a "hoax". 

Have we really become so stupid as a country, that we will take the word of a petty, childish, faux-politician over the doctors, scientists and experts that have spent their lives specializing in their fields?  Do we really just believe the loudest voice in the room, no matter how petulant, self-serving or misleading?

I'm new here.  So if I'm just venting, I apologize.  But damn it feels good to get it out sometimes.
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Have we really become so stupid as a country, that we will take the word of a petty, childish, faux-politician over the doctors, scientists and experts that have spent their lives specializing in their fields?  Do we really just believe the loudest voice in the room, no matter how petulant, self-serving or misleading?
Sadly, I think the answer is yes to both questions.
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I personally agree. We should all wear masks no matter what, and that is on protecting people.

The Conservative argument is that it should be businesses who decide if you should wear a mask inside their store, and the not the federal govt. requiring you to make a mask. That's their argument.

I disagree with the "typical conservative" because I am not, I am a free thinking, non partisan person. Wearing mask is beneficial, unless you are swimming or something.

Also, I think studies are coming in showing that being outside is more beneficial because the air dissolves around it. Pretty interesting. Still wear a mask.
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Have we really become so stupid as a country, that we will take the word of a petty, childish, faux-politician over the doctors, scientists and experts that have spent their lives specializing in their fields?  Do we really just believe the loudest voice in the room, no matter how petulant, self-serving or misleading?
Sadly, I think the answer is yes to both questions.
Not really. As a whole. There are just a group of faux-liberals who support chaos and anarchy over any form of government that would rather this country dead than this way. Well, my answer is no and it should always be no. If they really do so then there is really zero chance to convince them because they might think I am a brainwashed slave. Y'know, truisms aren't truisms when the other side is out of their brains.

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There is the normal libertarian who does whatever he thinks is right for him and <maybe> for the nation if it is really beneficial, and there are the extreme libertarian leftists that would shout at you for being a misogynist racist sexist homophobic *slur* *slur* *slur* just because you trusted anything rational and proven written by anyone who is remotely related to the government.
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There is the normal libertarian who does whatever he thinks is right for him and <maybe> for the nation if it is really beneficial
Oh yeah, like Martin Luther King.  Boy did he get a lot of flack ---flak used to shoot down WW2 bombers etc---   for his actions. 

Would Martin wear the mask? What would he say about masks today? 

Lets see who else took a lot of flack for their actions of does whatever they think is correct for self, family and nation?

Ghandi?  And the list goes on and on and on.......

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Well actually no. I am typing this from one enclosed shelter ran by a capitalist community, and there ain't no clothe above my lips. The fact it is not very big of an' chance for virus to catch several hundreds of meters off the ground, and the fact I have my windows and doors shut, it would make no sense to put on a mask indoors.
Meters? You’re no true capital imperialist! 
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I am Chinese. Using this logic I think feet and inches would be more capital imperialist.
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I’m concern trolling. 

I’ll be more direct. When you say you live in an inclosed capitalist community, it just sounds like you’re insecure. 
What do you mean exactly by Inclosed capitalist community?
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I don’t mind people making hypothetical arguments, it’s just that you don’t have to lie about yourself to do so.

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By that I mean the average urban upper class American city block
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That you also call a shelter. Okay.

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Wearing a mask to go into a restaurant to be seated and then taking it off to eat  is the same as a pissing section in a swimming pool
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Don't go into a restaurant and eat.
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One could argue, that such action encourages social consciousness about the issue, and ideally their follow through of obeying mask laws.
And really if someone's going to piss in the pool, I'd rather they do it a far distance from me, rather than right next to me in the water, as I start wondering why is the water warming up.
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But But But "SCIENCE" All these regulations are based on fact based "SCIENCE"

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The study of societies and the relationships, is a science.

Less tongue in cheek though, if a mask helps prevent someone from breathing so many droplets into the air, surroundings, and people on their way to the table,
Seems to me it could be argued scientifically to 'help prevent the spread of disease.
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Yes I would like to see that scientific evidence that shows wearing a mask and walking 20  feet in the same room and taking it off reduces or prevents the spread of a virus.

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Eh, the existence of some people talking like Looney Tunes, Sylvester, moments face to face with the staff, or nearby other customers in a hallway, where social distancing might be broken. Seems relevant to me.

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I wholly agree. I think it encourages good hygiene, which is great. Those who avoid masks tend to be filthy.
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UM none of these links show any scientific evidence that wearing a face mask and then taking it off in the same room reduces or prevents the spread of a virus. They are all just govt regulation suggestions. They show no scientific proof of anything.
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Judging how little you know about science, I suggest you actually check regulations which are based on science. If you don't understand science, you better not be trying to define "science" as you think it is some government conspiracy. There is no way in hell anyone would debate people who think science is a government scam.



A mask barely helps protect you. It protects other people from you. If you have the virus and you wear a mask, chances are your spread of the virus will decrease. On the other hand, if you be an absolute moron and don't wear a mask, you'll increase your spread of the virus.



The CDC advises:

Wear masks in public settings when around people not living in your household and particularly where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain, such as grocery stores, pharmacies, and gas stations. Masks may slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.
COVID-19 can be spread by people who do not have symptoms and do not know that they are infected. That’s why it’s important for everyone to practice social distancing (staying at least 6 feet away from other people) and wear masks in public settings. Masks provide an extra layer to help prevent the respiratory droplets from traveling in the air and onto other people.
The masks recommended are not surgical masks or N-95 respirators. Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders, as recommended by current CDC guidance.
More information about masks can be found on our masks site.

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I mean come on bro. It doesn't restrict your breathing, it doesn't do anything. Stop thinking you are smarter than guys who have actually researched for years,

GMB's Dr Hilary Jones says coronavirus face masks are "useless" to the public and can do "more harm than good".


Dr Hilary Jones reveals easy ways face masks can become contaminated and therefore ‘completely useless"

He said: "There are tens of thousands of bacteria on the skin of the face, particularly around the nose and the mouth, so if you’re wearing a mask under your nose, you’ve contaminated it and it’s completely useless".


"There are all sorts of things you have to bear in mind. Masks have a value, they have a place in certain situations, but you can’t rely on them totally."

Appearing on today's instalment of Good Morning Britain, the health specialist told hosts Susanna Reid and Piers Morgan " that masks can even transmit COVID-19".

It comes after the government previously insisted that there was no scientific benefit to wearing a mask.



 What I found about Dr Hilary Jones was  after repeatedly telling the British public how and why masks were useless, and after spending days of  going into great detail of how they cause serious infections of the face, lips, mouth, gums, throat AND possibly the lungs , he started to change his tune once the government made it compulsory to wear masks.

He simply took it that the British public had short memories and began shilling for Government. 


Stop thinking you are smarter than guys who have actually researched for years,

Dr Hilary started his medical training in 1976. Do you think he had done any research? And would you regard him as "smart" ? 
 


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@Stephen
First of all, he said they were useless when contaminated which is true, and is why you need to clean your face mask by baking it in an oven.


Second of all, I have a source directly contradicting yours, face masks help prevent the spread of COVID-19:



I don't think you know what you are saying. Masks can transmit COVID-19 when not cleaned and contaminated BECAUSE THEY PREVENT THE SPREAD. There is scientific benefit, and you haven't read a single one of the articles you posted. All of them said that they prevent the spread, but when not properly cleaned you can catch the virus, why? Because they are contaminated with the virus after catching the particles trying to infiltrate.

Masks are not useful if you wear them under your nose, fool. It is clear that you don't even know what you are trying to prove. He is literally backing up everything I am saying.

Then, there's the whole thing that you are relying on one doctor. There are thousands even millions of doctors telling you to wear a mask because it prevents the spread. And you choose to listen to one guy, who literally said that you should wear a mask.

What is correct:

-Masks are dangerous when contaminated (which is true)
-Masks can prevent COVID-19
-You shouldn't totally rely on a mask, they aren't 100% useful

The funny thing is, this guy literally backed up everything I said, and you basically can't read a single thing if you think he's an antimasker.


Wear a mask folks, save lives.