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@That1User
Skittlez has been very quiet. Said nothing notable. Perfect mafia cover
do you guys wanna do a mass character claim? we have a good idea of what the theme split is so do you guys wanna do a mass claim?
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Bearman [1/7] Water
Bearman [1/7] Water
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [4/7] Pattern, Speedrace, oromagi, skittlez09
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@WaterPhoenix
Well... there's a couple things with that.
Power roles would be pretty obvious I think. Big fat targets for Mafia. BUT, if the villain roles are really that obvious, mafia players will be very opposed. It may be worth it just to expose them...
I don't have a ton of mafia experience.
Sooooo, thoughts?
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Notice:
Sorry to have to do this, but I just had a resumption of this issue repeat itself... As I said before:
I think pattern is rm tbhSpeaking as a moderator rather than a player: There are no credential matches. With that in mind, we really should give him or her the benefit of doubt. ... Plus people who multi-account, have impulse control problems, so will in short order engage in behavior which outs themselves; we don't need to worry about it in the meantime.
So everyone, please drop it! I would prefer if we're able to finish this game, without anyone having to be replaced due to an unscheduled time out from the site.
-Ragnar, deputy moderator
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I read through the entire mafia and this is what should be said:
There is obviously a theme split:
The theme split is probably Good Vs Evil, as no other thing has been brought up. Assuming it is good v evil, anyone who claims Madara, Orochimaru or Pain is obviously scum. Likewise, anyone who claims Naruto, Sasuke, Rock Lee, etc, is obviously town. Now there is this whole issue of counterclaiming, but it so far hasn't been touched.
GreyParrot is inactive, but if he is an important role, we should not lynch him. Right now we have to focus on protecting the people who have obvious power roles, which is That1User. If anyone is a protector role, please protect That1User.
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@BearMan
GreyParrot is inactive, but if he is an important role, we should not lynch him.
Do you have reason to suspect he is an important role? He has not claimed anything that I have seen.
Right now we have to focus on protecting the people who have obvious power roles, which is That1User. If anyone is a protector role, please protect That1User.
You assume Sakura is a strong town role, why? From what I remember of the shows first couple of seasons she seemed kind of... useless. And whiny... Mmmmm...
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@Pattern
She seemed kind of useless, but she is a main character nonetheless. Main characters usually have power roles. Sakura becomes a well respected medical-nin, so I have a reason to believe that she is the doctor.
Again, why would GreyParrot not claim if he was vanilla? He is either a power role or mafia, and I don't want to risk a power role, especially if it is in the early game. You have to protect your arsenal of weapons before you can attack.
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@Greyparrot
you asking me to full claim?
Pressure is on you, yes.
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@BearMan
She seemed kind of useless, but she is a main character nonetheless. Main characters usually have power roles. Sakura becomes a well respected medical-nin, so I have a reason to believe that she is the doctor.
Mmmm... And why do you think it is wise to assert this publicly?
Again, why would GreyParrot not claim if he was vanilla? He is either a power role or mafia, and I don't want to risk a power role, especially if it is in the early game. You have to protect your arsenal of weapons before you can attack.
I am very concerned with the bolded part. Town's main objective is to hunt mafia, and you say he has a 50/50 shot of being mafia and you aren't willing to lynch him on those odds? Hmmmm....
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@BearMan
Grey has a habit of going offline when he is mafia. Also, his town meta is to claim in his first message. I'm pretty sure he's scum
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@BearMan
The theme split is probably Good Vs Evil, as no other thing has been brought up.
Just because another theory hasn’t been brought up doesn’t mean it’s Good vs Evil. It’s more likely than not that it isn’t that lol
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@Speedrace
Grey has a habit of going offline when he is mafia. Also, his town meta is to claim in his first message. I'm pretty sure he's scum
Oh ya I completely forgot about that. It’s been so long since he’s played lmao
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@ILikePie5
Oh ya I completely forgot about that. It’s been so long since he’s played lmao
Me too lol I literally only remembered as I was typing that message
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@Pattern
Where else would I assert that? The problem is that mafia is going to target them, not that mafia doesn't know. We need every protector on That1User now, (as doctor self-healing is rare)
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@Speedrace
Oh. Ok, it seems that you guys agree that Grey is scum, as much as I'm willing to provide logic, repetitive behavior is one of a few certain tells that someone is mafia.
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@BearMan
Where else would I assert that? The problem is that mafia is going to target them, not that mafia doesn't know. We need every protector on That1User now, (as doctor self-healing is rare)
You are not as good with patterns... You are abstract. You think in lies and tell them to yourself. That is fascinating, but it is not good for patterns. If you think this user is a doctor why was it smart to say so publicly? I've seen the first couple seasons of the show but do not recall Sakura's medical practices. Saying this publicly seems to only benefit mafia by giving them information they might not have already obtained. I must understand why you did this thing?
There are two conflicting theories
Good/evil split between Naruto's friends/enemies (My theory)
Naruto's Friends=Town
Antagonists=Mafia
An alternate town/mafia split (Pie's theory)
Allows for Antagonists to be town
Pie says he's antagonist and town, either he's saying the truth or he's lying and he's antagonist and mafia
If Pie's voted and is innocent then his alternate theory is right, if Pie is guilty then my Naruto's friends/enemies division theory is right
VTL Pie
For theory confirmation
I encourage everyone to do the same
We either get rid of mafia or we confirm a prevaling belief/base assumption as false
Town wins either way
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@Pattern
Assuming it is Naruto OS and Naruto Shippuden, you are wrong. She does become a medical kunoichi. You are not as good with logic Pattern. I have already expressed the Sakura was an obvious power role, any mafia could put that together. Therefore it doesn't matter whether I revealed I though Sakura was a doctor or not, because mafia is already going to go after Sakura.
I expressed that Sakura is a doctor for information, as that limits mafia's claims of doctor. Are you suggesting that I'm mafia for providing useful information to the town?
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@BearMan
If anyone is a protector role, please protect That1User.
Thank you Bear, please protect me
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@oromagi
Pie says he's antagonist and town, either he's saying the truth or he's lying and he's antagonist and mafiaIf Pie's voted and is innocent then his alternate theory is right, if Pie is guilty then my Naruto's friends/enemies division theory is right
Mmm... And what of speedrace? Again it's been awhile since I've seen the show, but Gaara if I remember was the main bad guy in one of the seasons. I vaguely remember him getting a sort of arc near the end of the season but I don't remember if it went anywhere, nad Gaara was mostly antagonistic in the episodes I watched. Also I think I watched up until when Sasuke changed sides; but Sasuke still wasn't technically evil, I think just wanted vengeance on his parents. The lines of good and evil in this show are a little unclear in some case. The show allows for grey area, but in cases of madara and orochimaru I think they were pretty distinctly evil.
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@WaterPhoenix
do you guys wanna do a mass character claim? we have a good idea of what the theme split is so do you guys wanna do a mass claim?
No, too early for this, let's hold off for now on mass claims and focus on specific characters.
Ok, let me revise:
Good v Evil theme split with exceptions.
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@BearMan
Assuming it is Naruto OS and Naruto Shippuden, you are wrong. She does become a medical kunoichi. You are not as good with logic Pattern. I have already expressed the Sakura was an obvious power role, any mafia could put that together. Therefore it doesn't matter whether I revealed I though Sakura was a doctor or not, because mafia is already going to go after Sakura.
Saying you already did something that was bad for town and so expanded on the thing to make it worse for town doesn't help your case...
I expressed that Sakura is a doctor for information, as that limits mafia's claims of doctor. Are you suggesting that I'm mafia for providing useful information to the town?
Do you not see how that information is more helpful to the mafias team though? Did town desperately need to know that a person is potentially doctor? You gave mafia information for free that they don't have to research now.
Mmm... Lies....
2. oromagi
TOWN CLAIM
7. WaterPhoenix Late role PM
5. iLikePie5
8. Crocodile
3. MrChris
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
10. Ragnar
12. Greyparrot
SCUM CLAIM
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@Pattern
Gaara is an antagonist for the first part of the first season. Barely a blip in the series. No Naruto fan thinks of him as evil. Someone like Pain or Madara is different.
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@Pattern
Mmm... And what of speedrace? Again it's been awhile since I've seen the show, but Gaara if I remember was the main bad guy in one of the seasons. I vaguely remember him getting a sort of arc near the end of the season but I don't remember if it went anywhere, nad Gaara was mostly antagonistic in the episodes I watched. Also I think I watched up until when Sasuke changed sides; but Sasuke still wasn't technically evil, I think just wanted vengeance on his parents. The lines of good and evil in this show are a little unclear in some case. The show allows for grey area, but in cases of madara and orochimaru I think they were pretty distinctly evil.
Speed is a def target to lynch down the line but we need to eliminate more main antagonists, I personally believe Pie is Madara or Pain, he could see himself as town by how driven by ideals they are.
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@BearMan
My assumption was that Sakura was doctor too... But I didn't want to announce publicly for the reason Pattern mentions.