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@Barney
I think he's only played once as scum, under the direction of Speed and oromagi, two of the best mafia players on the site. 
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@warren42
I'm not actually playing the game. I'm not a player. I'm just interjecting when I feel like it.
That's what SCUM would say
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@Barney
Him being jester is exactly why he would want to be CC'd, so then he'd be lynched and win
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@Crocodile
By "no role" did you mean no power role, AKA you're a vanilla? Or do you literally not have a role?
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@Lunatic
Do you skip the day phased when you're lynched or when you're killed in general
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@Speedrace
I'm really doubting he wanted to get CC'd. He didn't claim right away, and the odds of being CC'd are as follows. In a 12 players game with 49 states to choose from as a fake claim, the odds of getting a CC are only a little over 25%. As a Joker, those are horrible odds to take
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True. I dunno lol I'm just confused. I feel like it's more likely that this is a bus though
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@Speedrace
That's such a high risk gambit though, especially in a game like this where moderator can intervene and stir paranoia. 

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The wheels on the bus go round and round
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That's such a high risk gambit though, especially in a game like this where moderator can intervene and stir paranoia. 
So now you're willing to put weight in what I say because you don't agree with Lunatic's bussing? Scum chat must be wild right now huh?
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I never say I put weight in what you say. I just said you are more likely to stir paranoia because people like Pie and some noobs are more willing to buy what you say
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Wait

Unvote

I'm having a revelation moment while eating a Sausage McMuffin
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Something mafia would say if there had been a fight breaking out with regard to bussing.
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@Speedrace
Do you skip the day phased when you're lynched or when you're killed in general
Beloved princess skips the next day phase when lynched, and skips the next night phase when killed.
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Yep I have a theory

Looking at the claims given, none of what I see were inherently positive claims. Mine has a positive to negative connotation. It seems like Lunatic's is all positive. That seems to be the case with Water's and Croc's justification as well, a positive but followed by a negative. I notice when Lunatic claimed, he seemed to only have a positive connotation to the role itself.

Also let's look at the claim. He claimed a Beloved Princess. This is a way so he doesn't get lynched during the DP, to draw a lynch away from him, so he can have a NP action during the night. 

Also look. The negative connotation is what the role is based on for me, Water, and Croc. It seems that Lunatic's is off the positive. According to Croc, the state is boring, so he is a no role (which I'm assuming is Vanilla)

I think Lunatic is scum. If I didn't get it right, you can go at it. But I think I am

VTL Lunatic
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if this theory turns out to be true, I am going to only eat Sausage McMuffins when playing mafia
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Maybe sausage egg mcmuffins arent the best brain food for you my guy. That's quite literally the dumbest theory I've ever heard. Also crocs role doesn't have a negative anywhere in his justification. And he added the boise stuff only after being pressured wierd he wouldnt mention that initially. Water is miller so the negative literally defines the role lol
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@Lunatic
Yea but look at his justification, beautiful scenery but gets slept on due to its people, therefore Miller

Idaho has beautiful scenery but is boring, therefore Vanilla

Mine is beautiful scenery to negative connotation, therefore based on negative connotation

Yours is positive connotation only and role that is based on that

If I am wrong, you can have at it with me in the DP. Croc's carelessness and misunderstand is town from him IMO
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The only thing that is putting Croc in scum is him being CC'd
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Was supposed to go to Idaho awhile ago but literally about 20 hours prior to our departure we checked the weather forecast and the National Forest had been hit by over a foot of snow. Oof.
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Passed through and spent a night on my way to Washington once though.
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@Vader
Yea but look at his justification, beautiful scenery but gets slept on due to its people, therefore Miller.

Water's role doesn't emphasize beautiful scenery because comparatively to Idaho Utah doesn't even compare. The mormon trope is more recognizable. 

Idaho has beautiful scenery but is boring, therefore Vanilla
You are adding in your own interpretation of what Croc actually said to support your theory. Also Croc is saying his role pm is also mentioning beauty but only after pressured further lol.

Yours is positive connotation only and role that is based on that
Why not ask other people if there role as negative connotation? You are leaping to huge conclusions over assumptions you are making about the game.

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The only thing that is putting Croc in scum is him being CC'd
So what is croc's scum tells? Because in stormlight archive he did nothing, and all he's done in this game is claim. How are you reading that in any way other than null at best lol
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@Vader
Supa, beyond your ridiculous theory, if I am scum how is what I am doing helpful to my scum team in the slightest? If you think my only goal was to lead one mis-lynch and instantly die in tomorrows lynch, then that obviously benefits town. Even Speedrace's theory that this is a potential bus (though wrong) makes more sense from a mafia stand point then what you are suggesting. In almost every case but MYLO CC's it makes literally no sense to lynch the CC'er first. Especially on a hiarbrained theory like that lol.
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@Lunatic
His behavior as town is a very care free one. As scum, he seemed more focused and controlled. His lackadaisical effort is somewhat of a town sign IMO, only thing scummy is the claim since it's been CC'd.
 
 Even Speedrace's theory that this is a potential bus (though wrong) makes more sense from a mafia stand point then what you are suggesting
I'm just saying that your justification doesn't align with that I've seen so far

You are adding in your own interpretation of what Croc actually said to support your theory. Also Croc is saying his role pm is also mentioning beauty but only after pressured further lol.
No. He literally said in his justification, "potatoes potatoes. We are a boring state"

Why not ask other people if there role as negative connotation? You are leaping to huge conclusions over assumptions you are making about the game.
I'm making this justification now because if people see the pattern that's presented and look at the PM, they can come to the conclusion whether or not this theory is true. I won't force people to out negative connotations if they do not feel like. I'm analyzing from the pattern I see.

I'll still go and unvote,  just due to the fact that the confidence in this is only 50-60%, not enough to trigger a lynch looking at the drawbacks, but I am saying a theory that is true from the patterns I'm observing ATM
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Yo this should be an easy lynch. If Croc is Vanilla we don’t lose much and catch scum in return. Let’s get on with it

VTL Croc 
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If there’s a Jester soak it up to bastard. Not much we can do about it
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Ehh fuck it. I think Luna is scum, but I'll do a 1 for 1 trade off. 

VTL Croc