If supadudz is scum he still definitely had the flush.
Poker Mafia - DP2
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@BearMan
Oh.Right now I have 4D and 2D
Fold.
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@ILikePie5
sorry, that's my cards this round. My cards last round were JC, JS
oromagi JC Tran 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|JS, JC=4ofK=2V
X.warren42 Chris Moneymaker
X.Discipulus_Didicit Johnny Moss
TOWN
PressF4Respect Doyle Brunson 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|KC,QD=STR=BP
ILikePie5 Daniel Negraneau 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|2D, 4S=3ofK=COP
Crocodile Stu Ugnar 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|
BearMan Archie Karas 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|KH,3C=3ofK=COP
SupaDudz Phil Hellmuth 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|TD, 3D=FLSH=DOC
RationalMadman Johnny Chan 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|XX,XX=3ofK=COP
Speedrace Phil Ivey 5D,9D,WR|JH,9S|8H,7C=STR, CC
SCUM
UVC
Speed: 2/5 - 2x Oro
i had 4c 3h
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@Crocodile
i had 4c 3h
Anything else you want to say?
DP1:
Pie: 2 of Diamonds and 4 of Spades - Cop Speed = Guilty
BM: King of Hearts and 3 of Clubs - Cop Speed = Guilty
RM: 4 of Diamonds + 6 of HeartsToK - Cop Oro = Guilty
Speed: 8 of Hearts and 7 of Clubs - Cop RM = Innocent
***Lied about being Cop because hand forms straight
Supa: 10 of Diamonds and 3 of Diamonds/Flush - Doctor RM
Oro: Jack of Clubs and Jack of Spades - 4 of A Kind = 2Vs
Press: King of Clubs and Queen of Diamonds - BP
Croc: 4 of Clubs + 3 of Hearts
UVC:
Speed: 2/5 - 2x Oro
i investigated bear cuz he seemed kinda scummy ngl in dp1
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@Crocodile
i investigated bear cuz he seemed kinda scummy ngl in dp1
And?
Oromagi slipped so hard LOL do not forgive him changing his cards.
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@ILikePie5
innocent vibes coming out of him
i don't know anything about poker so y'all gonna have to help me too
Also, I would like to say that if Oromagi genuinely has 9, J this round, I'd prefer to lynch him because frankly that's a powerful hand and can make Mafia have a very strong reward tonight over the town, given the flop.
I am certain of both Oromagi and Speedrace being scum. I would only townread Warren based on Speedrace's slip (I know Warren is dead) because I know that Warren, based on last game, talks a lot with partners and offers fakeclaims to prevent the partner slipping. I do the same thing, it's just that Bearman chose to out as 2x watcher in the 13RW game despite me telling him explicitly not to in our Mafia chat that game.
It's very simple to me. The partners of Speedrace both know little about Poker and also are the type to let partners fend for themselves. This helps my reads but only slightly since Warren is the one I'm most sure wouldn't do that. It also does slightly make me hold back my scumread of Press.
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@Crocodile
innocent vibes coming out of him
Did you get an innocent or a guilty?
Oromagi slipped so hard LOL do not forgive him changing his cards.
I agree. Disc said he had a good hand last DP. The best hand he could’ve had at that point was a straight flush with any combo of 6,7, or 8 of Diamonds. That would likely be the best hand after pocket nines. But there were 2 kills that night and one of them was DD so it’s highly unlikely he or Warren had a straight flush. Mafia had to have taken a part in at least one death last night. Probably both. Oro had the next best had with 4 of a Kind, but he has not confessed to any of the killings. He should be scum.
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@ILikePie5
Given how the Joker and 2 9's enabled extremely good hands for all, I think it's possible 3 kills happened and the doc save from Supa really did have effect.
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@ILikePie5
bruh do you seriously not understnad lol
innocent
i think we should press on speed and then go after oromagi.
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@ILikePie5
Oh yeah! Best hand gets a nightkill and Oromagi never said he did that. I genuinely forgot to notice that.
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@Crocodile
Oromagi first is optimal even though Speed is more 100% certain vs Oromagi being extremely certain.
Oromagi claims to have 9J this round and that means that he already has a guaranteed pair with so many outs to catch onto a better hand.
I also have the guilty on Oromagi.
VTL Oromagi
I don't see a reason to vote Speed over Oromagi because I am likely 'eliminated' by next day phase.
I want to use this opportunity to get Oromagi out and then town can safely lynch Speedrace and move onto the third (given that Oromagi said he thinks there are three and that I also think there are three and Oromagi rarely lies unnecessarily based on his very logical playstyle, I think there are indeed 3).
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@RationalMadman
I don't see a reason to vote Speed over Oromagi because I am likely 'eliminated' by next day phase.I want to use this opportunity to get Oromagi out and then town can safely lynch Speedrace and move onto the third (given that Oromagi said he thinks there are three and that I also think there are three and Oromagi rarely lies unnecessarily based on his very logical playstyle, I think there are indeed 3).
what would happen after we lynch oro and speed?
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@Crocodile
bruh do you seriously not understnad lolinnocenti think we should press on speed and then go after oromagi.
I’ve asked you multiple times. First time I get it. Second time. Second chance. Then you joke around. Be more serious dude.
Oromagi first is optimal even though Speed is more 100% certain vs Oromagi being extremely certain.Oromagi claims to have 9J this round and that means that he already has a guaranteed pair with so many outs to catch onto a better hand.
I think it’s better if we go safe here. 5-3 is MYLO. If we’re wrong here we won’t be able to lynch ever again. If we successfully lynch here and town gets the NK we can get Oro as well. If Oro is town then 4-2 and still MYLO. But instead of hoping Town gets the NK to kill Speed it’s better if we hope Town gets the NK to kill Oro. 5-2 are still good odds for town to have a good hand
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@Vader
@PressF4Respect
@Crocodile
If you have a good hand right now you should be betting. If not then fold.
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@ILikePie5
I understand
Speed's actions are enough to get me on his train. My top two choices are Oro and Speed due to results.
I still want Oro lynched. It is even possible he asked Speedrace to outwith a blatant slip-hand in order to take a 'hit' for him as this day phase he'd got a good hand. Of course this is presumptive and it's entirely viable that Speedrace accidentally slipped but I just don't understand why or how Oromagi can be town.
I also have the guilty on Oromagi.
Who’s your third scumread?
I still want Oro lynched. It is even possible he asked Speedrace to outwith a blatant slip-hand in order to take a 'hit' for him as this day phase he'd got a good hand. Of course this is presumptive and it's entirely viable that Speedrace accidentally slipped but I just don't understand why or how Oromagi can be town.
I’m 100% sure Speed is scum
95% sure that Oro is scum. Theoretically Warren or DD could’ve had the straight flush and mafia could’ve had the pocket nines in reality or by cheating