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Oro is says 3/5 not 4/5
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Just to clarify, double voter in my games don't how their votes, so the one being lynched will die at 4/5 instead of 5/5.
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Unvote Speedrace

I want more discussion today before we lynch confirmed mafia

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Pie: 2 of Diamonds and 4 of Spades - Cop Speed = Guilty

RM: Cards unknown/ToK - Cop Oro = Guilty

Speed: 8 of Hearts and 7 of Clubs - Cop RM = Innocent
***Lied about being Cop because hand forms straight

Supa: Card unknown/Flush - Doctor RM

Oro: Jack of Clubs and Jack of Spades - 4 of A Kind = 2Vs

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Do not end day before supa outs his cards and press outs his role
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Croc too
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Be back later
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There is no reason that double vote wouldn't also be a mafia role.
I agree.

Theres no right way to play jiggidies...
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DP1

Pie: 2 of Diamonds and 4 of Spades - Cop Speed = Guilty

RM: Cards unknown/ToK - Cop Oro = Guilty

Speed: 8 of Hearts and 7 of Clubs - Cop RM = Innocent
***Lied about being Cop because hand forms straight

Supa: Card unknown/Flush - Doctor RM

Oro: Jack of Clubs and Jack of Spades - 4 of A Kind = 2Vs

UVC:

Speed: 3/5 - Pie, 2x Oro

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I got Cop too. 9 9 and joker. I investigated Speed, and he was GUILTY.



VTL SPEED
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I got a king-high straight last night, making me bulletproof. My hand was KC and QD.
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Unvote we need to keep DP alive
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Cards please 
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There is no reason that double vote wouldn't also be a mafia role.
that's right although its far more rare and powerful. 

For Town, Doublevoter is a very mild power role. While it has the potential to stop Mafia from endgaming the Town when they make up 50% of the living players (because they do not control 50% of the votes), they will usually be targeted to die much earlier than then because of the above point. In addition, possessing two votes does not imply that the doublevoter has any special knowledge about who is scum, and Towns tend to get quite angry if a doublevoter tries to use its power to push its will on the other players. Thus, Doublevoter is an especially weak Town power role that is often treated as an obstacle by the Town.

For scum, Doublevoter is immensely valuable because it allows the faction to endgame the other players (that is, control 50% of the votes) earlier than usual. This is especially true if the scum's doublevote is hidden, as they can fool the Town into believing they have more chances to eliminate scum than they actually do. Thus, scum doublevoters are not unheard of but still remarkably powerful.

Can you see a game that risks multiple mafia double voters?  I can't tell if your fake claim is bad data or a dumb gambit but given your recent compulsive behavior in my regard, I am leaning towards the latter.
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Ok Speed’s hand and role don’t match.

VTL SPEED
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Guys VTL SPEED. Both me and pie investigated him, and he was guilty for both of us. 


The only confirmed scum is Speed. Croc is sus, but we should go with confirmed first.



Scum:

Speed 
Croc
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Ok Speed’s hand and role don’t match.

VTL SPEED

Unvote rn, we need more info for future DPs
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I had KH and 3C, but then I got 9, 9 and joker, so I got 3 of a kind. 
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What are your cards dude
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Ok

UNVOTE
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Oh.

Right now I have 4D and 2D
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Official Vote Count

Speed (2/5) - oro, press

Not voting: Supa, croc, bear, speed, pie, RM,

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Fine, but we have someone who massively scumslipped.

UNVOTE
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DP1

Pie: 2 of Diamonds and 4 of Spades - Cop Speed = Guilty

BM: King of Hearts and 3 of Clubs - Cop Speed = Guilty

RM: Cards unknown/ToK - Cop Oro = Guilty

Speed: 8 of Hearts and 7 of Clubs - Cop RM = Innocent
***Lied about being Cop because hand forms straight

Supa: Card unknown/Flush - Doctor RM

Oro: Jack of Clubs and Jack of Spades - 4 of A Kind = 2Vs

Press: King of Clubs and Queen of Diamonds - BP

UVC:

Speed: 4/5 - 2x Oro, BM, Press

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I have duplicate cards in my hand (9C to be specific) for some reason, despite being town. Does anyone else have duplicates in their hands?
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*my current hand
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I have duplicate cards in my hand (9C to be specific) for some reason, despite being town. Does anyone else have duplicates in their hands?
You have two 9Cs in your hand right now?
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I’m guessing that mafia has some role that can alter the hands of town in the next DP
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Yes
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rereading the entire DP, i'm open to lynching speed.

but, like RM said we need to keep the DP alive to gather more information

an ultimate lynch on speed is ok with me