Why do Conservatives Care so Much About Taxes?

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I don't think "conservative" actually means anything any more. The term has become so watered down it means nothing.

The republican party (the leadership of it anyway) is about serving rich people. (please note the dems are a whole lot better). So that is why they are so obsessed with taxes. Rich people don't particularly need the services of the government. They have the money to do whatever they want anyway, so why would they want to pay into that system? Also, they know they can make the government borrow money to bail them out anyway (see 2008 financial crisis as well as current crisis). So even if they don't pay any taxes, they know they can still get the things they want from the government anyway.

The republican party have used "conservatives" for a long time. They might agree with them (or might not), but they don't actually fight for them. They will put up a token fight to fire up their base, but then they go back to what they actually care about. Making the rich richer. 

I'm not sure one party is much better than the other. They just have different masters. While Republicans have low taxes, for instance, Democrats get lobbied to give valuable deductions and credits.

and this isn't about billionaires not wanting government services. According to politifact "Among the top 100 donors in the Open Secrets list, 33 were billionaires, and of those, 14 gave primarily to liberal groups while 19 gave to conservative groups." That isn't a clear split one way or the other.

And I don't think you would argue only the Republicans would bail these companies out. Obama had his own stimulus package. 

Yeah, the GOP is corrupt as f*ck (has been for decades), and I have no idea why GOP voters don't do anything about it. They care. Both parties are corrupt, though. That is why Bernie was popular among Dems. That is why an outsider, Trump, was popular among Republicans. They offered what people perceived as an escape from the "establishment".

my argument was not that all rich people support the republicans, it is that the republicans only care about rich people. 

nope. Obama was right wing on alot of issues, like alot of the establishment Dems. 

agreed. And the establishment of both parties will do anything in their power to keep that from happening. They would much rather lose to the other party, than lose ground to anti-establishment people in their own party. for example, the dems have made huge sums of money telling every donor that trump is a fundamental threat to america. The republicans did the same thing by telling everyone Obama wanted "death panels" or Benghazi, or whatever stupid outrages they came up with. 

They have designed the political system to recycle the same people into power over and over and over. This ensures that no one who isn't bought and paid for gains any real power. 

I know your point wasn't that rich people only support Republicans. I was showing that, since a decent amount of rich people support Democrats, obviously the Democrats have something to offer them as well.

I'm happy about the party becoming more nationalistic in trade policy and labor economics, but they have a long way to go. Hopefully Tucker Carlson 2024 :P

Righties hate him, so I would find that surprising. Especially since the moderate Democrat voters treat him like a god.

Exactly. Mitch McConnell is sending millions of dollars to smear Chris Kobach in Kansas in favor of an establishment type. From what I understand, the Democrats do that too against Left-wing candidates. Very frustrating. Although I would probably disagree more with those types of candidates on economic policy, it is refreshing to see people who aren't paid off getting power. 

oh yeah that would go well. Trump is looking at a historic defeat because he is an idiotic, loudmouth, racist, reality tv show personality. So we should replace him with an idiotic, loudmouth, racist, entertainment tv show personality. That is definitely what america wants....

righties hated him before he was even elected. Fox news treated him as the anti-christ for proposing what was essentially a republican healthcare plan. It didn't matter what he said or did, the right was going to vilify him. As for democrats, they liked him because he talked a good game. He was eloquent. He made people feel like things would get better. But he fundamentally failed to actually fix those things. 

agreed. But until we get money out of politics it is extremely difficult to do that. As long as billionaires can funnel huge amounts of money into super pacs to fund campaigns for their lackeys, it is extremely hard for people to get elected who aren't bought and paid for. 

Trump will probably lose because he sh*t the bed and tried to appeal to conservative Democrats and black voters instead of his actual base. We want reduced immigration, an end to tech censorship, fixing the opioid crisis, a wall, but he gave us criminal justice reform and more funding to "historically black colleges".

And Tucker is the highest rated cable news program out there, so obviously his ideas are popular. I'm sure you'd agree with at least a quarter of what he says. He has mass populist appeal.

And lefties decided to hate Trump even before he was elected. You see a pattern? The country is so divided, they only care if there is an R or a D next to their name.

Yeah, and the very people with the power to get money out of politics are the ones with everything to lose from doing so. Interesting how that works.....

it's stupid to push for lower taxes unless there's first lower spending. it just adds to the debt. i saw  poll that economists are unanimous that overall government revenue goes down if there's tax cuts in this environment. there's not some magic voodoo that will pay for the tax cuts. 

we pay less in taxes than most other countries anyway. i dont think it's too much to expect a tax system that is similar to the rest of the developed world. if you notice other countries are not overburdened by our debt load like we are. so of course not only should taxes not go down, they should go up. there's room for spending cuts, but our welfare system is far from run amok. it's mostly bare bones aid. 

Most leftists believe the "cure" for capitalism is taxation. Most people on the Right are capitalists. Most on the left are Marxist socialists.