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Crocism- A Far Left Political Ideology
Creating a serious and reasonable but stupid political ideaology, one step at a time.


Political and economical class struggles push the world further and further into ultimate implosion and collapse. Individual rights far overpower the greater good in the world that all of us live in today, which leads humanity into a greed that cannot be cured unless there is a radical and rapid political and economical event that takes down the capitalist and part-communist governments that are in place today. Economic struggles that are in place today are obvious, gaps between social classes are egregious. Hard work in capitalist society is rewarded rarely and that is the problem with society and the economy that is currently in place. The solution to this? Marxism? Leninism? No. The promises that several far-left political ideologies give to us are far fetched and completely impossible. A utopian, classless, stateless, and no socioeconomic class society is improbable and most likely impossible to achieve within the next century. Also, the process of going through a socialist revolution is not inevitable, it completely contradicts the purpose of communist ideologies in the first place. There ought to be a new and different solution for these terrible struggles the average Earth citizen faces. A new political ideology will be born out of the dark shadows of revolution: Crocism. 


  1. The Problem With Currency
    1. In reality, currency has no actual value, it is a subset of natural human imagination and innovation. But, this innovation and imagination is what is leading us to our ultimate demise. Currency acts as a proxy between humans and their needs and wants. Why should we need a proxy, instead of giving needs directly to humans themselves? Currency is used as a reward, but what exactly is the reward used for, except to spend it on needs and wants? It actually does one thing besides that, it satisfies the natural human greed for power. Money gives people power, economic, and social leverage. But, as in the real world, this is not always good. This leads to the downfall of a capitalist society because, as said before, the economic gaps created by currency creates issues that politicians promise to solve, but never do. Which is why there should be no currency. This will solve all problems, as class struggles will be eliminated. When you work, you get rewarded, not with money but with food and needs This creates a world where everyone gets what they need.

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Why should we need a proxy, instead of giving needs directly to humans themselves?
Lmao okay please do go into detail on how this would work.
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Call it Crommunism, it sounds way cooler and you'll gain the support of many leftists 
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The problem with currency.

If we are all equal, then who has the power to allocate rewards?

Extreme socialism always fails because people are just not equal...We rely upon natural hierarchy to bring  order to society.

Currency or no currency, there will still be people with their begging bowls and others dishing out the rewards.

It's perhaps better to have currency, rather of the gun.
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You support the system known as resource-vased economy. The user Type1/Sparrow had a very similar idea of Utopia to you. I'm willing to logically tear you utopia to shreds if you allow me to. It's your choice. You are enabling tyranny by artificial intelligence and naming a Technocratic Oligarchy as Crocism then saying it's going to care for its poor except it won't. If you remove money, you instead measure people by their output alone amd that means all the elderly, mentally/physically vulnerable and the entire fields of the arts become wastes of resources and guess what your system would do with those wastes of resources? You'd get rid of them.
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resource-based* economy 
not resource-vased
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If we are all equal, then who has the power to allocate rewards?

Extreme socialism always fails because people are just not equal...We rely upon natural hierarchy to bring  order to society.

Currency or no currency, there will still be people with their begging bowls and others dishing out the rewards.

It's perhaps better to have currency, rather of the gun.
You're saying people will not work? Well if they don't work they don't get food, forcing them to work in the first place. They only have to accomplish the bare minimum to get food. 
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But, the people with begging bowls are there, not because they had poor parents, they are there because they didn't work hard in the first place. Now, we can say they deserved to be there. Or there is always the alternative of killing those who don't work hard enough (after enough warnings).
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You support the system known as resource-vased economy. The user Type1/Sparrow had a very similar idea of Utopia to you. I'm willing to logically tear you utopia to shreds if you allow me to. It's your choice. You are enabling tyranny by artificial intelligence and naming a Technocratic Oligarchy as Crocism then saying it's going to care for its poor except it won't. If you remove money, you instead measure people by their output alone amd that means all the elderly, mentally/physically vulnerable and the entire fields of the arts become wastes of resources and guess what your system would do with those wastes of resources? You'd get rid of them.
Exactly, we would get rid of them. The entire point of a crocist society is a acceleration towards becoming a superpower. We'd have massive outputs of products which would not only lead us to becoming a good economy, but also a good nation (to those who work, of course). Old people do not necessarily equal to wastes of resources, as they can teach and knit. Mentally troubled people can become test subjects for scientists. But other wastes of resources, yes, we'd get rid of them. 
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currency works without a central bank
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But currency bad
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you have to understand that all of human society for the last 10 thousand years have had currency

its human nature and "wealth equality" is a fallacy
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Yes, all of human society had currency. And where is that leading us now? Into a hole of depression and social gaps. Wealth equality can only be achieved by the number 1 workers.
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thats not currencies fault, I blame the fed reserve
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Did the fed reserve exist in the ussr
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did it exist in ancient egypt?
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no.
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the government will be a very authoritarian state if you want to keep people in line.




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Exactly, we would get rid of them.

can become test subjects for scientists. But other wastes of resources, yes, we'd get rid of them. 
Disturbing morality you have. Calling Capitalism evil for neglecting those that can't work and then saying you yourself would slaughter or chemically torture them for experimentation purposes (which no doubt you'd pay them nothing for as your society has no money and you call them wastes of resources).

I exposed you as the tyrant you are within one post and reply, that's pretty much a first tbh. 
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If you are not trolling, you are seriously mentally disturbed and need to stay out of any positions of power in your life.

Your replies to Zedvictor and me indicates a deeply sadistic and psychopathic streak to you.
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Now that we've established that your system is tyrannical and psychopathic, let's go into the AI overlords that would calculate the value of each person, good/product and service.

In what way would you compare a massage, a song, the playing of instrument for the melody of that song vs the singing of the song by the singer and a trainer/sneaker/running-shoe? How would you compare the value of those things?
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a central bank did in the USSR

ancient egypt is too different than today
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Creating a serious and reasonable but stupid political ideaology, one step at a time.
I'm not a communist lol.
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Communism, but for 11 year olds
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You worked extremely hard. Have 3 chickens instead of 1 chicken. Where's the money? No money! But I worked so hard for that money! All I get is 3 chickens

Terrible idea. Life has no meaning if no reward in currency appears. Currency is a connection to worlds. No currency means nothing has value. You will not be able to trade. The country will die in 2 years
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People work to gain high rewards. In order to do this, you have to convince that person that 3 chickens is worth more than $45 dollars worth of pay. Which is worth more?
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Like SupaDudz said, this is completely horrible. Who will invent stuff? Who will advance stuff to the future? No one. This entire system is also troubling. This is assuming people already have resources, and continue to farm them. What if they don't? They can't trade, because they have nothing of importance. 
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You worked extremely hard. Have 3 chickens instead of 1 chicken. Where's the money? No money! But I worked so hard for that money! All I get is 3 chickens
Exactly no money. But the minimum is set at 3 chickens. Therefore, three chickens wouldn't be considered working hard in the first place. This would maximize output.
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People work to gain high rewards. In order to do this, you have to convince that person that 3 chickens is worth more than $45 dollars worth of pay. Which is worth more?
The psychological effect of saying 3 chickens is not enough, and that you should work for 6 chickens, is what convinces them. But, 3 chickens is already good! So, they'll work the bare minimum, in there minds. But in reality, the bare minimum is set at a high standard.