I do not support a privatized system, but more privatization is popular amongst academics, so I would probably support that.
Privatization of Education.
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@Trent0405
Privatized schools would essentially run like businesses.
And there are good reasons why schools shouldn't run like businesses.
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@PressF4Respect
IK, I'm not for a free market or even a predominantly privatized education system.
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@Trent0405
Yeah, only neoliberalists (not to be confused with liberals) really support a fully privatized educational system.
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@Trent0405
Also, the source you quoted used a very small sample size (<100), which skewed the results.
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@PressF4Respect
100? It says "210 PhD. economists." And that's only the ones with PhD's.
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@Trent0405
Oh, my bad. I was looking at the tables instead of the abstract, lol. But my point still stands.
There are roughly 18,000 members in AEA, and not an insignificant amount of them hold PhDs, so 210 is still a very small sample size.
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@PressF4Respect
Okay, I guess more data should be acquired then. But, even if this is off a little bit, more privatization in education is most definitely not a preposterous proposition. A quick scan of google scholar shows mixed results for quality and affordability.
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@Trent0405
The main argument that most proponents for privatizing education use is, "It will increase the quality of education by promoting competition."
One glaring problem with this is that with unfettered capitalism, the ultimate goal is to earn as much money as possible. This means that schools will be incentivized to serve the wealthiest communities (as they are the ones who would provide the most cash for the school). This puts the kids living in poor communities – arguably the kids who need better schools the most – at a further disadvantage, as there would be no incentive for schools to provide for them.
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@PressF4Respect
I agree.
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@Trent0405
And now we just sit and wait for this thread to get interesting...
privatized schools is a good alternative
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@Dr.Franklin
How so?
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@PressF4Respect
well first of all if you live in a bad area you can go to another town where a school is in with private school
as well as if you want to raise your kids christian it teaches those values
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@Dr.Franklin
well first of all if you live in a bad area you can go to another town where a school is in with private school
So you're saying that if you live in a poor neighbourhood, you should move to a richer neighbourhood?
as well as if you want to raise your kids christian it teaches those values
Sure, if you want to do that, and can afford to do so.
But in this thread, we're talking about privatizing education as a whole, not just providing private schools as an alternative.
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@PressF4Respect
So you're saying that if you live in a poor neighbourhood, you should move to a richer neighbourhood?
never mentioned wealth, but private schools give opportunities to kids who are in a school zone whcih is a bad area, its a bit complicated
also, i never meant for the whole thing to be privatized, my whole point was that it is a good alternative
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@Dr.Franklin
never mentioned wealth, but private schools give opportunities to kids who are in a school zone whcih is a bad area, its a bit complicated
Here's the thing:
There's no economical reason why private schools would ever set up shop in poor communities, as they would make substantially less money from those neighbourhoods than wealthier ones.
If you're poor, you most likely wouldn't be able to afford private school.
also, i never meant for the whole thing to be privatized, my whole point was that it is a good alternative
...for those who can afford it. The thing is, some people are advocating for the privatization of the educational system as a whole. That is what I'm against.
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@PressF4Respect
again, I bever mentioned wealth, if you are wealthy but in a poor school zone, its a good alternative
i dont think they are many people who are against public schools
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@Dr.Franklin
Yes, private schools can be an alternative for those who are wealthy enough to afford them. No one here is for abolishing them.
What we're talking about here is the privatization of the educational system as a whole. That is what I'm against.
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@PressF4Respect
i understand that and was not my argument
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@Dr.Franklin
Ok? No one here is saying that private schools should be removed. Your argument is directed at nobody in this thread.
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@PressF4Respect
notice how my post wasnt directed at anyone
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@Trent0405
I am not in favor of full privatization. I think there needs to be competition in these industries, meaning we must have charter schools, public schools, and private schools. Teachers unions are toxic. Vouchers would end up saving us money, as in most states, per pupil spending is lower at private schools.
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@Trent0405
Boooo, you're a liberal now?
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@bmdrocks21
Boooo, you're a liberal now?
The most egregious sin
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@PressF4Respect
The most egregious sin
Isn't it, though?
I reduce time on this site for one month, and look what happens!!!
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@Dr.Franklin
notice how my post wasnt directed at anyone
So... you weren't talking to anyone else in this thread?
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@bmdrocks21
Yes, for I am a capitalist who believes in individual liberty.
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@Trent0405
Oh, so a "classical liberal"?
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@bmdrocks21
Isn't it, though?I reduce time on this site for one month, and look what happens!!!
Ikr, those dang libtards back at it again.
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