Sun Tzu's advice has helped me dominate this website bit by bit.

Author: RationalMadman

Posts

Total: 41
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
That's a fact, debate-Rating will eventually match my prowess in the Forums arena and I shall thwart all. Full respect to Sun Tzu and also to the book 33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene.
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@RationalMadman
Really. Maybe Chinese History isn't as boring as I thought it was. 
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@User_2006
Well no it isn't, regardless his teachings in particular are phenomenal.
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
lol no you dont dominate anything
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
His current growth suggests he will be in the top ten in the next two months
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Not by ELO, but by wins and losses. I really don't know how ELO works. If i'm wrong then fuck me
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@Crocodile
I don't want to be self-depreciative or arrogant, but what do you think my Elo could be after 3 months?

Hint: Every loss is -15+-5, every win is +15+-5
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@User_2006
Give me till tommorow, it took a long ass time to calculate RM's
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@User_2006
But you have far less debates so maybe it will take less time.
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@Crocodile
I could wait for you till I leave the site, but don't drag it. 
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@Crocodile
I mean, I am winning my first debate in what? an entire month? My highest was 1518 because Wylted forfeits, but I am at my all-time low. 
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@User_2006
I'm not gonna calculate your last 50 debates like with RM, it's only gonna be with the last 10. I could see your win loss ration from that and extrapolate it using excel for the next 2 months.
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@Crocodile
I am pretty sure I lost most of them, so if I got a grade like Type1 I wouldn't even be surprised. 
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@User_2006
I used excel and not paper this time so it was actually a lot easier. You take an average of .53 debates per day (rough estimate). Extrapolating data from your previous debates gives us a current 4:2 win/loss ratio. 2 months is about 60 days, and .53 of that is about 30 (rough estimates here).  Using that ratio you would get a win/loss of 19:11. That means you would win 19 debates and lose 11 debates (at the rate you are going. 19 times 15 is 285, and 11 times 15 is 165. That means your ELO, in 2 months would go up by about 120. That's a significant increase. Your ELO would be at about 1509, which is above average. It would put in you in the top 100 debaters.
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@Crocodile
Fun fact: When my ELO was at Peak, I am exactly 69th. 
zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,043
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@RationalMadman
You've obviously got too much free time on your hands.

Perhaps you need to get out and meet people.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@zedvictor4
That's a good idea, want to break lockdown together?
VonKlempter
VonKlempter's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 59
0
1
10
VonKlempter's avatar
VonKlempter
0
1
10
-->
@RationalMadman
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." So you're trying to get information from every debater on the site and analysing them? Or are you reading finished debates to "know the enemy"?
VonKlempter
VonKlempter's avatar
Debates: 5
Posts: 59
0
1
10
VonKlempter's avatar
VonKlempter
0
1
10
-->
@RationalMadman
However, the book itself may not have been written by Sun Tzu himself.
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Crocodile
wins and losses determine that
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Crocodile
ok and?
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
i'm batman
User_2006
User_2006's avatar
Debates: 50
Posts: 510
3
3
11
User_2006's avatar
User_2006
3
3
11
-->
@zedvictor4
No, he prob doesn;t want to break da law
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Crocodile
no your crocodile
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Well you're a panzer tank
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Crocodile
how did you know
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
cuz ur mom is a crocodile.
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
were not friends anymore:(
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Well I am not a tank so i guessed
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,672
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Crocodile
impressive