Penetrating The Real Reason For Bigotry

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To those that participate in sinking themselves to the nuts into (a) man's dirty shit-pipe, it is, I assume,  the most "natural" thing in the world.
So, what if you substitute "man's" to "woman's"?

I don't have the statistics and quite frankly it's none of my business but isn't that what 80% of heterosexual men do?

Then why single out homosexuals in particular?

Why doesn't the Bible simply say "for it is abominable for anyone to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of anybody"?

Oh, no it doesn't, does it?

It singles out homosexuals for no other reason than out of ignorance and arrogance.

What anybody does in the privacy of their own bedroom (or bathroom or kitchen or lounge or balcony or swimming pool) is their own business and to single out one group, in particular, is nothing short of discrimination and bigotry.


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It is fair to say that the societal damage that say, promiscuity causes is something that acts as a visible evidence as to why promiscuous behavior is immoral.


It is one thing to practice these things, it is something else even to call it good or even encourage it.

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It is one thing to practice these things, it is something else even to call it good or even encourage it.


I agree. Mopac.

Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic sickness in your opinion?
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@Mopac
You are talking about promiscuity.

Kindly explain what on earth that has to do with the subject.

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Then why single out homosexuals in particular?
It isn't the Bible doing the bigotry, it's you. The bible did not pick out, or mention homosexuals.

The verse says, "if ANY man..." This clearly includes heterosexual men.

Why doesn't the Bible simply say "for it is abominable for anyone to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of anybody"?
Because that would be untrue. What the bible does say is, "for it is abominable for any MAN to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of any other MAN".

Oh, no it doesn't, does it?
No. The bible holds no untruths.

It singles out homosexuals for no other reason than out of ignorance and arrogance.
No sir. Its you applying homosexuality to the verse where there is none. The ignorant and arrogant one is you.

...to single out one group, in particular, is nothing short of discrimination and bigotry.
Like you do Christians, you hypocrite?
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Because that would be untrue. What the bible does say is, "for it is abominable for any MAN to go testicles deep into the fundamental orifice of any other MAN".
You can mess around with semantics as much as you want (as is usually your want)
......however, I think that anyone with half a brain will accept that any man who rides the chocolate freeway is committing a homosexual act. Oh yes, sure, a naked heterosexual high on Viagra could just happen to be walking along whilst for some reason another naked man could just happen to be kneeling on the ground spreading open his butt cheeks. Then the former heterosexual just happens to accidentally trip over and penetrate the other man balls deep.

We can't rule out the possibility, could we? Just as we can't rule out the possibility that there is a God.


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You can mess around with semantics as much as you want (as is usually your want) 
I posted what the verse says. You want to insert homosexuality into it. Who is playing semantics? I asked you, "if a heterosexual man lies with another man as he would with a woman, is that also an abomination?" You dodged, as is your wont.

......however, I think that anyone with half a brain will accept that any man who rides the chocolate freeway is committing a homosexual act.
Right. But a man does not have to be a homosexual to commit a homosexual act. Think a little sheepie.

Then the former heterosexual just happens to accidentally trip over and penetrate the other man balls deep.
Or he could just be a porn actor desperate enough to do homosexual porn to earn some money. You are wrong, that is why you wrote all that nonsense instead of just answering the question.

Fakery and deception will not fly here Sal. You are the bigot inserting his bigotry into the verse. Anyone committing that act, homo or hetero, is an abomination. No one is "picked out" except those violating the law. But you, because you are biased and dishonest, do pick out homosexuals.

Homophobia is often related to racism, as they both come from ignorance and bitterness.
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I've seen cases where homosexuality can be a choice, such as when a child, who really wouldn't think much or understand sexuality, states that lesbians are awesome (this was my granddaughter's young friend who said this) which, it turned out, was something she heard her mother say.

 And because Hollywood is dominated by homosexuals they push their sexuality through most shows, including so-called children's programs so that being queer is somewhat fashionable. 

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It isn't the Bible doing the bigotry, it's you. The bible did not pick out, or mention homosexuals.

Stop with the lies and semantics. God and Leviticus are clearly talking about  homosexuality. and clearly single out men/males in particular.

You just love a fkn baseless argument don't you . 

Where did homosexuality come from, Einstein?  How did it develop in humans to become such an "abomination" to god in ancient times that it warranted the death penalty.

Leviticus 20:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.

AND AGAIN AT 

Leviticus 18:22. "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


There is something seriously wrong with you if you have to persistently blatantly lie about your own scriptures in the belief that it will win you an argument. 
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I've seen cases where homosexuality can be a choice,

I agree. it seems now that it has become ' fashionable ' to be either a raving homosexual / lesbian and in a mixed race relationship. 




 And because Hollywood is dominated by homosexuals they push their sexuality through most shows,

It does. I find it quite sickening to be honest that they to force feed our children homosexuality almost 24/7.  In England almost every fkn drama and TV show and commercial has a fkn homosexual in it as if it is compulsory for them to do so. It is left wing bollocks that is collapsing society in the west.

is it any wonder the Muslims are up in arms here in the UK about their little children being taught about such practices. It must be the only thing ever that I have agreed with Muslims on.






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@Stephen
Stop with the lies and semantics. God and Leviticus are clearly talking about  homosexuality. and clearly single out men/males in particular.
Stupidity will not win an argument, no matter how hard you try. When you get the guts, answer the question you're dodging, or ask yourself why you're dodging it.

Where did homosexuality come from, Einstein?  How did it develop in humans to become such an "abomination" to god in ancient times that it warranted the death penalty.
All sin comes from the same place, shemp.

There is something seriously wrong with you if you have to persistently blatantly lie about your own scriptures in the belief that it will win you an argument. 
If I'm lying, how come you can't answer the question homer? What lie have I told? The verse say "any man", so even hetero men can violate that law. Where is the lie?

In your scrambled eggs brain only. I win arguments because I'm smart and honest. If you stopped lying and thought more, you just might win some too.
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Lol. You dodged the question because you're tired? I don't think so troll.

You're terrified to lose. But dodging is the same as losing.

D'oh!
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I agree. Mopac.

Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic sickness in your opinion?


It is a choice to engage in homosexual behavior.

It Is also a choice to entertain temptation.

Everyone is tempted, and we can often times be tempted into bad things. We have to choose to not consent to those temptations by entertaining them. When we entertain them, they become fantasies. It is no big step for someone to move from those fantasies into the behavior that is fantasized about.


There is no such thing as an innate homosexual. Are people born thieves? Are people born pianists? 

What makes a homosexual? Behavior. 





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@Salixes
You are talking about promiscuity.

Kindly explain what on earth that has to do with the subject.




Just because it is no one's business  what another does in the privacy of their own home does not mean that these behaviors are harmless and don't have an effect on the people involved.

I don't like to single out homosexuality because all sexual immorality is bad. Simply being heterosexual in one's behavior does not make it moral. 

Promiscuity among those who primarily or exclusively engage in heterosexual behavior is very harmful, especially to the psychology of a society. There was a time before prophylactics and modern medicine when it was more obvious how these behaviors effect the medical health of a society as well.





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@Mopac
Just because it is no one's business  what another does in the privacy of their own home does not mean that these behaviors are harmless and don't have an effect on the people involved.

I don't like to single out homosexuality because all sexual immorality is bad. Simply being heterosexual in one's behavior does not make it moral. 

Promiscuity among those who primarily or exclusively engage in heterosexual behavior is very harmful, especially to the psychology of a society. There was a time before prophylactics and modern medicine when it was more obvious how these behaviors effect the medical health of a society as well.
I asked: "You are talking about promiscuity. Kindly explain what on earth that has to do with the subject."

I could now also ask "what does immorality have to do with the subject?"

As well as ask: what does, "does not mean that these behaviors are harmless"

But, let's just stop the music right now and cut to the chase, shall we?

I have already given you numerous opportunities to address the topic (and not only this one) and you know and I both know that you are deliberately skirting around the issue.

Let's just agree to agree.
You are a bigoted homophobic who doesn't have the spine to admit his true colours.


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There is no such thing as an innate homosexual. Are people born thieves? Are people born pianists? 

What makes a homosexual? Behavior. 
By definition, what makes a homosexual a homosexual is their attraction to the same gender.

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Here is your bigoted homophobe...

I find it quite sickening to be honest that they to force feed our children homosexuality almost 24/7.  In England almost every fkn drama and TV show and commercial has a fkn homosexual in it as if it is compulsory for them to do so. It is left wing bollocks that is collapsing society in the west.

is it any wonder the Muslims are up in arms here in the UK about their little children being taught about such practices. It must be the only thing ever that I have agreed with Muslims on.

And look Sal, he's an atheist! Can't blame this bigotry on religion now can you?

But the one who has spoken gently, respectfully, and pleasantly about homosexuals, you call a bigoted homophobic who doesn't have the spine to admit his true colours.

You don't see the bigot Stephen, just like you couldn't see the racist hari, and attack the descent, while sheltering the vile.

It may be too late for you Sal. Bitterness may have already gutted your insides.
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@Stephen
Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.


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But the one who has spoken gently, respectfully, and pleasantly about homosexuals, you call a bigoted homophobic who doesn't have the spine to admit his true colours.
That's right. Because he is like a slimy mole who comes out to make veiled snickering remarks behind people's backs.

And for the record, there is absolutely nothing respectful and pleasant about his covert type of implied rhetoric in his obvious hatred and bigotry towards minority groups.

It may well be that he didn't acquire his disgusting views from the Church but there is one thing for certain.
Churches attract slimy moles in droves because of their willingness to harbor and shelter such spineless creatures.
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Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.
That could be so, I have not researched the subject. Nevertheless, we are human beings and we all have the ability to modify our thinking.

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That's right. Because he is like a slimy mole who comes out to make veiled snickering remarks behind people's backs.
How do you make remarks "behind people's back on a public forum? And when did he snicker?

And for the record, there is absolutely nothing respectful and pleasant about his covert type of implied rhetoric in his obvious hatred and bigotry towards minority groups.
So to you, his "hatred" is veiled, covert, and implied, but still obvious?

You are completed deluded, I don't believe you're capable of rational thought any more.

Of course, you had not one word about the bigot Stephen's overt, unveiled, and direct rhetoric in his obvious hatred and bigotry towards minority groups.

Lol.
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I agree. Mopac.

Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic sickness in your opinion?


It is a choice to engage in homosexual behavior.


Stop being evasive.  Are you saying TO BE homosexual is a conscientious life style choice and not a genetic disorder?

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Here is your bigoted homophobe...

  Like your homophobic god who is not satisfied with simply not agreeing with homosexual practices, he orders them to be killed doesn't he. just like the Muslims want to murder all homosexuals , even the so called "moderate" Muslims agree with your gods punishment of death.
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Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.


In the case of believing in a man in the sky who sees everything and knows everything, and created , has been described as a delusional metal illness. 

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Attacking God doesn't excuse your bigotry Abdul.
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Weeding through the juvenile back and forth attacks aside, is the argument that the verse doesn't say "homosexuals,' but instead any man lying with any man as he does with a woman?

If we're going to use that narrow, to the letter definition of the terms in the verse, then not only are blow jobs and hand jobs fine, but they're not abominations if they simply do it standing up.
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Some people might consider that the propensity to believe in various nonsenses, is perhaps genetic sickness.


In the case of believing in a man in the sky who sees everything and knows everything, and created , has been described as a delusional metal illness. 

Attacking God doesn't excuse your bigotry Abdul.
 I am not bigoted. and you cannot show me where I have been so. 
What homos's do behind closed doors in their own privacy has nothing to do with me.


I am saying it is a genetic fk up. You don't agree but also say it is nothing to do with god. BUT God,according to YOU and all theists created everything . So you have a fkn dilemma princess. Although I know you won't recognize it as such . 




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Weeding through the juvenile back and forth attacks aside,...
I did not attack your buddy ludo.

is the argument that the verse doesn't say "homosexuals,' but instead any man lying with any man as he does with a woman?
Have you read the verse? There is no argument needed. The verse says what it says.

If we're going to use that narrow, to the letter definition of the terms in the verse,
Wait, WHAT narrow, to the letter definition of the terms in the verse?

...then not only are blow jobs and hand jobs fine, but they're not abominations if they simply do it standing up.
The word "lays" in the verse does not mean supine, genius. Do you think a chicken is lying down when it lays an egg?

But I notice you dodged my question too. I don't care about wide or narrow definitions. Just address what the verse says and answer the question.

How can the verse be singling out homosexuals when the same behavior by a heterosexual is just as prohibited?

The fact that I now have you, Stephen, and Sal dancing around the question like the 3 shoeless amigos on hot coals, is telling.

Or maybe you find homosexual blowjobs titillating. But can't you answer the question and post your gay porn too? Why does it have to be only gay porn?

Sal and Stephen never answer questions, but you sometimes do. So can you answer here? Would a heterosexual man be under the same violation as a homosexual man for the same behavior prohibited in the verse?
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@Stephen
I am not bigoted. and you cannot show me where I have been so. 
Everyone can see it Jethro. Even if you can't.

What homos's do behind closed doors in their own privacy has nothing to do with me.
Yeah, you're not bigoted at all. 

I am saying it is a genetic fk up.
Because you are basically illiterate.

You don't agree but also say it is nothing to do with god.
I said nothing of the sort liar.

BUT God,according to YOU and all theists created everything.
No liar, I did not say so. And God does not create your loony threads.

So you have a fkn dilemma princess.
I can answer questions. If I'm the one with the dilemma, how come you're the one running away? Outside your delusion, I have no dilemma, I'm quite fine.

Although I know you won't recognize it as such . 
I recognize your lies. And your dodging so as to keep lying. As long as I have you running away from simple questions, you will never win liar. And I will toast you for as long as you remain clueless.