Mandatory vasectomies worldwide.

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As a pro lifer, mandatory vasectomies worldwide I think as of right now isn't a bad idea.  You guys may think I'm joking, but I'm not.  It would reduce the number of worldwide abortions by 40 million per year.  Africa's and Latin America's abortion rate has barely been going down, and their pro life laws haven't been working in eliminating abortions, plus the people there haven't been using birth control which isn't really 100% effective.  Since they won't be abstinent, I guess well have to make vasectomies mandatory worldwide if we wish to eliminate over 90% of abortions worldwide.

Vasectomies are reversible when the couple is ready to have kids and the fact that they cost money would prevent poor people form having kids, therefore reducing worldwide poverty drastically.

So the pros to mandatory vasectomies worldwide are:

-An end to the vast majority of abortions.
-A reduction in overpopulation.
-Less poverty worldwide, since low income people can't afford to get the vasectomy reversed, therefore they have less kids without abortions.

What are your thoughts DARTers?
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A pack of condoms at the drugstore sounds over a trillion dollars cheaper.
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Less poverty worldwide, since low income people can't afford to get the vasectomy reversed,

And Alec still thinks that because his wealth when he grows up will be all inherited from his parents that poverty is literally genetic.

Smh
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A pack of condoms at the drugstore sounds over a trillion dollars cheaper.



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Oh yeah, and what are the penalties for not letting the government snip your pecker?
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Predicted answer: $1000 tax.
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This law is so sexist! Women should get their tubes tied instead. 

#Triggered

Also, lol. Probably. Honestly, all of this non-compliance will probably solve the debt problem. xD
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Don't you think there are poor countries whose people would rather die resisting an invasion of whatever power was trying to implement this rather than to submit to the extinction of their collective national bloodlines?
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A pack of condoms at the drugstore sounds over a trillion dollars cheaper.
Condoms don't always work in preventing pregnancy.  One condom fail and the girl might get an abortion, which is what should be prevented.
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Oh yeah, and what are the penalties for not letting the government snip your pecker?

Why would anyone resist?  It would be done in a painless manner and once your done, you just have to ejaculate enough times to get the remaining sperm out, and then you could have sex with no protection and not get the girl pregnant.  You could then get even more sex, since there would be less holding you back, so in the long term, the guy benefits.  When your ready for kids, you get the vasectomy reversed for a little bit to cause a kid to form and then you get vastectimized again to prevent future unwanted pregnancies.
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This law is so sexist! Women should get their tubes tied instead. 
A vasectomy is safer, cheaper, easier and less painful than getting your tubes tied.  It's also reversible when the couple is ready for it.


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Don't you think there are poor countries whose people would rather die resisting an invasion of whatever power was trying to implement this rather than to submit to the extinction of their collective national bloodlines?
I doubt it.  People in poor countries tend to be pro life, Africa and Latin America treat the whites there pretty well, and they can control their immigration policies, so I doubt that the people in these regions would be that upset about mandatory vasectomies.  It would reduce their poverty and they get more sexual freedom since there would be less holding them back from having consensual sex.

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How are you conservative when you believe that the government should control your body. lmao this is a horrible idea. Condoms when used correctly are 99% effective. I'll take my odds at 99% versus surgery. Even when not, they are 91% effective. Even so, if they break, or ineffective, Plan B is a last resort for women that prevents this 
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It is all about educating the youth about sexual safety overall. Schools require these classes for a reason. How about taking some notes? The internet can also teach you too
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If every men gets a Vascetomy that is safe at the age of 40, that would cost the government 1000 for quality vascetomies. If you multiple that by the abotu 200M men, that is 200B dollars wasted, and probably more too. Waste of money and resources
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stop making society revolve around one thing and one thing only--> sex.

Problem solved

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Condoms when used correctly are 99% effective. I'll take my odds at 99% versus surgery. Even when not, they are 91% effective. Even so, if they break, or ineffective, Plan B is a last resort for women that prevents this 

If you have sex 100x, then over time, there is a chance that you end up getting her pregnant.

It is all about educating the youth about sexual safety overall. 
Even when they are educated about sex safety, many teens want sex without protection.  Mandatory vasectomies are a good way to allow them to do unprotected sex, which a lot of people want.  

If every men gets a Vascetomy that is safe at the age of 40, that would cost the government 1000 for quality vascetomies. If you multiple that by the abotu 200M men, that is 200B dollars wasted, and probably more too.
It probably would be less.  Vasectomies are rare though, so the demand influx would help reduce the price.  Currently they are expensive because they are rare and because of that, doctors who do them wouldn't have to charge as much. 

Although lets say that it does $200 billion for the USA.  We can raise that money by cutting military spending by 50%, which raises $350 billion, and the extra $150 billion can go towards a tax cut.  Also, it would be a one time expense, with small matience fees by comparison, so most of the $200 billion can go towards another tax cut.
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stop making society revolve around one thing and one thing only--> sex.

I would like that, but how would you change what most people value?
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1.Ban Porn
2.make a punishment for premarital sex


and get rid of degeneracy

Yes, in a shocking turn of events, people used to not treat sex as the end all,be all

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1.Ban Porn
How would you punish it?  Also, it would happen illegally and it's common enough, plus it might reduce the desire to have sex because people can get the urges out from the porn, rather than a real girl, resulting in less abortions.

make a punishment for premarital sex

I'm waiting until marriage, but how would you punish and catch people doing premarital sex?

and get rid of degeneracy
What counts as degeneracy and how would you get rid of it?

people used to not treat sex as the end all,be all
People were scared of God.  But now, society has become less religious, so people are being more sex obsessed.  We can't ban sex.
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well unfortunately

Everything I said is impossible in the age of information

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If we can't prevent people from having premarital sex, I think making vasectomies mandatory worldwide would help reduce abortions by 90%.  It can, and should be done in a painless, safe way.  Thoughts?
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How are you conservative when you believe that the government should control your body.

You're definitely confusing conservative with libertarian.
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Condoms when used correctly are 99% effective. I'll take my odds at 99% versus surgery. Even when not, they are 91% effective. Even so, if they break, or ineffective, Plan B is a last resort for women that prevents this 

If you have sex 100x, then over time, there is a chance that you end up getting her pregnant.
No one ever has sex 100 times firstly, and second, Plan B is always effective. In the future, condoms will become better overall at preventing.

It is all about educating the youth about sexual safety overall. 
Even when they are educated about sex safety, many teens want sex without protection.  Mandatory vasectomies are a good way to allow them to do unprotected sex, which a lot of people want.  
This is simply lies. Teens are defined as anyone between 14-18. And they only do so because they are uneducated and have been not told to say.  nohttps://www.teenvogue.com/story/teens-losing-virginity-agehttps://www.teenvogue.com/story/teens-losing-virginity-age. If we teach people about it and have sexual education mandatory, then we can inform the public more. Teens want to do it because they are not educated. In Illinois, it is a requirement, and people are informed, which means they know how to practice. Condom are also easier to buy versus a vasectomy. Teens do not have the resources, time, and various other aspects to go and get a vasectomy, but they do have time if they are informed to get condoms. Having the government decide your body is a violation of the 1st Amendment. Vasectomies violate religious practices, and therefore making it a requirement restricts people from getting it 

If every men gets a Vascetomy that is safe at the age of 40, that would cost the government 1000 for quality vascetomies. If you multiple that by the abotu 200M men, that is 200B dollars wasted, and probably more too.
It probably would be less.  Vasectomies are rare though, so the demand influx would help reduce the price.  Currently they are expensive because they are rare and because of that, doctors who do them wouldn't have to charge as much. 
But the start would be expensive. It would take time to lower the prices too, and even so, the equipment will still stay the same
Although lets say that it does $200 billion for the USA.  We can raise that money by cutting military spending by 50%, which raises $350 billion, and the extra $150 billion can go towards a tax cut.  Also, it would be a one time expense, with small matience fees by comparison, so most of the $200 billion can go towards another tax cut.
So cut our national defense from threats around the world and with government funding just to basically cut peoples testicles. Not a smart idea

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Then it is authoritarian. Authoritarian policies are god awful
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Conservatism tends to be more socially authoritarian so yes that fits fine with Alec being a conservative.

He is hardcore conservative too. For some weird reason he will claim that he is a libertarian but one glance at his famously regressive tax ideas in his ASTAP / Project 15 thread (and tbh most other threads or posts from him too) will reveal that to be blatantly false. He is further right than anyone on this site as far as I know and that is 100% not an exaggeration.
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I am more Libertarian Conservative