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@Speedrace
You voting yourself is wildly anti-town
I dont think so. Unless you think there is any chance that both me and DD can survive this game to late game with the roles we have. I would love to go that option. If we had old school mafia players like bluesteel, fourtrouble, blackvoid and yraelz this wouldnt even be an issue. At some point in this game one of the millers is probably getting lynched though and id rather it not be a LYLO situation. So if we can address this issue of "its impossible for there to be two millers" now and be okay with the idea that two can exist in fine with lynching elsewhere. But I legit cannot defend myself otherwise I know my role and I know I'm town. Other people csnt see my role pm but will lynch this way because its easy. If i csn replace virtuoso next day phase I will tunnel wylted bullish and supa hard for their laziness with my lynch because there will definitely be scum on it

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Lunatic is so blatantly town it isn't even funny anymore. Get your votes off him and end this nonsense.
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Unvote vtl supa

Wp is right, supas jump on the TUF wagon looks pretty bad on him.
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Btw policy lynches against millers are so dumb. You are punishing a player for receiving a role as if they have control over that. It will start encouraging millers not to claim SOP and when they get caught guilty on cop results and mislynched they will get yelled at for not claiming miller lol. We are creating double standards for ourselves. Mods aren't going to stop using millers either.
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Btw policy lynches against millers are so dumb.
Policy, letting millers live is also dumb.

You are punishing a player for receiving a role as if they have control over that. It will start encouraging millers not to claim SOP and when they get caught guilty on cop results and mislynched they will get yelled at for not claiming miller lol. We are creating double standards for ourselves. Mods aren't going to stop using millers either.
Arguably, that's the entire point of millers, which is why they should be hidden until death. They are supposed to be anti-town roles that reduce the effectiveness of cops.

The only reason I'm not voting you is because, having claimed miller as mafia before, I've seen how stupid of a thing it is for scum to do. And I just don't see you doing it. Dumb logic is something you only use as town.
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Actually, if Pie implemented two millers, that is a genius way of restoring them to their real role: causing confusion in the town. Otherwise they have the opposite effect: uncced millers are basically confirmed townies at this point.
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Btw policy lynches against millers are so dumb.
Policy, letting millers live is also dumb.

Agree, so let's not let luna live based on policy. Let's let him live based on his obv town behavior.

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Policy, letting millers live is also dumb.
It's not policy. Choosing not to lynch players based on something that's not linked to behavior should be just a basic right.

Arguably, that's the entire point of millers, which is why they should be hidden until death. They are supposed to be anti-town roles that reduce the effectiveness of cops.
Miller mechanic changes are probably for the best. Most mods including myself have just been using them based on standard knowledge of the role however.
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Holy shit I picked a bad day to focus on running errands. Catching up
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But luna's behavior is always scum, even when he's town.
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I think we should be looking at pressuring Supa and Bullish. Supa for the reasons stated and bullish for effectively just dropping his vote on Luna because "miller CC" and has yet to post anything else at all. I'll add my vote to Supa since he seems more active, just gonna double check vote count first
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VTL Supa

because pressure is always nice. 


Also for the votes on Virt, why not just ping him to get him in here rather than VTLing? One gives him a notification to remind him and another does jack shit

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@Vader
Explain
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@Zaradi
I think we should be looking at pressuring Supa and Bullish. Supa for the reasons stated and bullish for effectively just dropping his vote on Luna because "miller CC" and has yet to post anything else at all.
+1


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Did I not tag virt when I VTL'd him? Thought I did.
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Might've. I was skimming when I was looking for tags so I might've missed it. 
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Virtuoso is always inactive, he'll get on when he gets on
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Vote Count

Lunatic - (4/7) Bullish, Singularity, Supa, Lunatic

Virtuoso - (2/7) Water, Oro

SupaDudz - (2/7) Zaradi, Disc



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Looks like some sensible people trying to get this thing back on track. Bullishes lazy play comes off as scummy, so I think I want to focus him first. Supa and wylted both have at least have somewhat of a reputation for this type of stuff.

Unvote, vtl bullish.
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Also, I implore anyone with an investigative role to investigate Lunatic, but afterwards investigate (or anyone really) to look at possible insane stuff
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In case Miller was a safe claim and it's Lunatic and DD
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Who would the third be in that theory?  We know there are three from the op
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I never said you were CC'ing
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@Zaradi
Oh my bad, then I dunno, it's unlikely but I want to cross off all possibilities, I really didn't like how Lunatic was voting for himself
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@Speedrace
 I really didn't like how Lunatic was voting for himself
I didn't like it either man trust me. Just seemed like the best option given the dumbness going on.

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@Speedrace
Not a fan either, voting for yourself is varying levels of anti-town, but never pro town. The rest of his behavior seems fine, though. 
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I'm down to lynch anyone on the lunatic wagon (except lunatic himself of course)
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@Bullish
Respond or imma vtl you
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@Speedrace
Can you advise whether you have ever seen the show?

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Nope I am looking at Wiki