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@WaterPhoenix
Oh. My mind didn't connect that you were the one I'd just suggested investigating. I feel dumb now.
DART Survivor Mafia - DP2
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@SirAnonymous
lol
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@SirAnonymous
Lol
Reads soon after I eat dinner because I'm starving
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@Speedrace
Nothing tastes as good as being thin
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@Singularity
Lol I've been exercising recently so I'm good
Anyway reads
1. Ragnar
Null, weird for him though because someone else used the word "manufactured" when talking about his posts, which was EXACTLY the word that popped in my head"
2. SirAnon
Town, he's only been doing stuff to help everyone
3. Singularity
Null, I really can't tell
4. SupaDudz
Fantastic claim, but everything else is scummy (safe claim from mod??) I would vote Supa if it wasn't for his claim
5. Zaradi
Null, haven't gotten any vibes from him
6. GreyParrot
Outing water was scummy, but the whole Mason deal in general is townish
7. Speedrace
Pretty scummy
8. Water
Town, but you can't really tell with him lol
Mason deal makes him seem town, although the 1x limit as a possible copout makes *some* sense
9. ILikePie
Inactive
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@Speedrace
Ha!7. SpeedracePretty scummy
I'll get my reads up later tonight. I'll try to have some detailed analysis as well. Hopefully typing everything out will help me reach some conclusions.
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@SirAnonymous
Alrighty
Might try to find specific stuff for my scummy/null people
I still really wanna kill supa, ngl
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@oromagi
Activity ping.
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@oromagi
Never mind, I'm dumb.
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@SirAnonymous
You realize he was lynched, right
Lol
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@SirAnonymous
How is it that I logged on RIGHT between those two messages xD
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@Speedrace
That would take thinking. I just started writing my reads and noticed he hadn't posted. I'd forgotten that we lynched him.
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
@SirAnonymous
@Zaradi
Vote Count
Ragnar - 1/5 - Singularity
Singularity - 3/5 - Grey, Ragnar, Supa
Note Voting: SirAnon, Zaradi, Speedrace, Water, ILikePie
There is less than 24 hours remaining. Players not voting by the end of the DP will be mod killed.
Like I stated before I'm down to hammer singularity.
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@WaterPhoenix
Let me finish my reads first. I need to know what direction to head first.
Im not comfortable with a singularity lynch. Much rather kill supa
Vtl supa
also would be down to lynch Pie or Ragnar, but I'd prefer supa
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@Zaradi
If Supa is scum, then either there is a protective role we don't know about, or he waived the NK. He has a strong claim. Why do you want to lynch him?
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@SirAnonymous
Why does there have to be a protective role? And tbh I couldn't care less about his claim. His behavior has been super sketch, hence why I'm not inclined to believe his claim.
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@Zaradi
Because there was no NK. If Supa is scum, the only explanations for that is that there is a protective role we don't know about that blocked the kill, or Supa waived the NK, which is about the most un-Supa-like thing conceivable, next to voting for Bernie Sanders.
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@SirAnonymous
So long as an alt exists, there doesn't have to be a protective role. Hence, supa isn't town confirmed because he claimed BP. Since his play has been almost objectively scummy, I'm far more inclined to believe that the NK was waived, regardless of if Supa, specifically, waived it.
My question to you is if you don't consider his claim, would you say supa is more likely to be town or scum? If more likely to be scum, why are you believing his claim?
Assuming the mod doesn't provide scum with fake claims, part of being a good scum-sided player is being able to create a believable fake claim. BP is one of the easiest roles to fake claim because to make it look believable, you waive the NK.
You can make the counterpoint that it's not town confirmed if another protective role outs themselves to also be a reason why there was no NK. But that trade-off is hella scum-sided because you just got the protective role to out themselves for free.
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@Zaradi
I know. However, the alternative is incredibly unlikely.So long as an alt exists, there doesn't have to be a protective role.
Hence, supa isn't town confirmed because he claimed BP.
I know, but it is a strong claim.
Since his play has been almost objectively scummy, I'm far more inclined to believe that the NK was waived, regardless of if Supa, specifically, waived it.
There are two mafia. Unless the other mafia is the leader and overruled a kicking and screaming Supa, there is next to no way the NK would be waived. So far as I know, Supa has never waived an NK. He has done gambits, but they are always aggressive and never passive like waiving an NK. It is incredibly unlikely that Supa would do such a thing. The idea that the other mafioso overruled him doesn't seem likely.
My question to you is if you don't consider his claim, would you say supa is more likely to be town or scum?
Hard to say. He always looks scummy, to the point where it was joked in one mafia game that they knew he was town because he hadn't slipped yet. Worse than that, in the Lucid Dreamer's game, he scum slipped as town. Accounting for that, I would say he's null or leaning scum.
If more likely to be scum, why are you believing his claim?
Because it is the best explanation for the lack of an NK. Of course, there are other explanations, but as yet, Supa being BP is still the best one.
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@Zaradi
BP is one of the easiest roles to fake claim because to make it look believable, you waive the NK.
I know, and that is definitely a possibility. It just doesn't work with Supa psychologically. If he is scum and the mafia waived the NK, then he almost certainly has an experienced player as his partner.
Has ragnar claimed? He should if he hasn't
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@Zaradi
Yes. He claimed warren42 and vanilla.