When Christian children do not obey their parents!

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CHERYL: “Daddy, I am sorry that I didn’t obey you today like I biblically should, and therefore I know another scary bible story is to be read to me once again.”

BROTHER D: "Well Cheryl, barring the biblical fact that you will turn into a second class woman as you grow older, how about this story where our ever loving and forgiving Jesus, as god incarnate, allows women to be cut into pieces after being raped?" 

CHERYL: “Oh yes daddy, if you must, go ahead with my needed Bible punishment story.” 

BROTHER D:  "Okay sweetie, it goes like this, I’ll just cut to the chase for the good parts, it was party time and the son’s of Belial came upon a house and beat on it’s door wanting a certain man to come out, but he didn’t. Then the owners daughter of this house was offered instead. Long story short, the men screwed her all night long, and the next morning they cut her up in twelve pieces, the end.  Now Cheryl, you as my daughter, do you want me to perform this act upon you the next time someone comes to our door, and if I don’t go outside to anyone that wants me too, but instead, I offer you to the person in question to possibly have the same things happen to you? Huh? Are you going to obey me next time? 

CHERYL: “Ewwwww, that’s gross!” Yes Daddy, I will obey you, and what does “screwing” mean?

BROTHER D: “Okay dear, it’s time for you to go to sleep and dream about our Jew Jesus as god being a serial killer of the innocents within the scriptures again, okay? As TRUE Christians, we have to accept Jesus true Modus Operandi."

CHERYL:  "Daddy, I think I am going to have nightmares after that story and you threatening me the way you did if I don’t obey you next time!”

BROTHER D:  "Yes Cheryl, this type of situation can arise when you are indoctrinated into our Christian faith, now go to sleep!”

It doesn't. BrotherDThomas does reference the passage he's talking about. It was one guy who did it to his concubine, who was already dead. The Bible nowhere says that God condoned his actions.

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Alec,

This must be "Bible Ignorance Day!" To answer your question, within Judges 19:22-30, it is in verse 29 where "this rape victim" includes: "When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. "

wtf

Wasn't she already dead?

Yes, she was already dead.

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Vaarka,

What to you mean wtf? Yes, to be a TRUE Christian you have "big pelotas" to accept what ALL of the Bible has to offer!  No namby  pamby wussy boys or girls need to apply. Our Jesus' true words get really despicable and sickening at times, but that is what separates a TRUE Christian like myself, and pseudo-christians that represent 99.99 percent of the membership here on DEBATEART.

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Stop spreading false information, this is blatant lies. You are doing nothing but ruining Christianity by calling upon violence. The commandments are specifically against adultery that is pre-marital. Read this article

God called to protect rape victims and called upon them to have a voice, ignorance is a bliss and this thread is the walking definition of it

Deuteronomy 22:25. 

The child conflates premarital sex with rape. What's going to happen when he grows up?

The church and god defends the girl and considers her not a sinner in the eyes of God. Did you read? No you didn't

Did you read this?

In a discussion of rape, you don't know what you are talking about.

It has to be consensual. Again, the site says, this but you didn't listen

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SupaDudz,

YOUR QUIRKY AMBIGUOUS QUOTE:  "Stop spreading false information, this is blatant lies. You are doing nothing but ruining Christianity by calling upon violence. The commandments are specifically against adultery that is pre-marital."

Uh, the impetus for me to warn my girl children in the way I did, was the fact of the story in Judges 19:22-30 where I factiously stated that if my girls didn't behave, then what could possibly happen to them would be the same as what happened to the daughter of the owner of the house in the Judges narrative, get it? Huh?

Furthermore, what has your notion of adultery have to do with Jesus' inspired words regarding the raping of a woman and cutting her up in 12 pieces in Judges 19:22-30?

Listen, at least I didn't murder my children when they got mad and cussed at me as the inspired word of Jesus stated that I could!   “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head." (Leviticus 20:9) As the TRUE Christian knows, Jesus agreed with murdering children that cursed their parents in Matthew 15:3-4!

SupaDudz, save yourself any further embarrassment and just leave this thread, okay? Thank you.

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I am not refuting your point of disobeying your mother, BROTHERDTHOMAS. I am refuting the quote you made about rape and many other claims that would mean a women would be punished. Deuteronomy 22:25 counters your entire point of rape being punishable to the women, so you should use a different example 

Exodus 22:22-24

Revelation 21:4 disprove of the women being raped going to hell, instead it comforts them and promises justice to the aggravater, but go ahead and preach your lies to make the Christians look evil

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You are taking my quotes to literal and are not focusing on the fact of the matter at hand, which is I am not saying it is OK to disobey thy father. Please learn to READ what I said. You made about rape being justified by disobeying the father. This is simply not true. Rape is valued as murder and is a sin to do so. 

Your ineptitude to understand what I am saying is beyond belief

Orthodoxy also looks at salvation for sinners. The most famous story, by Luke

Admitting to sin and confessing to sin is a part of the church and how we live. It is one of the 7 sacriments of the church, to confess your sins to have an acess into heaven. The prodigal sons proves salvation from sin is possible and to love the sinner. You denying this is utter nonsense. From a Jesus believer, this came from Luke himself, one of the 4 composers of the gospel. Your references here are outrageous and demeaning to Christians

What are you being saved from?

Hell

Your god sends you to hell, so you are being saved from your god, how wonderful.

Who goes to "hell" and why? 

And would those put to death in the verse the Brother quoted have gone to hell?

You are being saved from your sins when you confess them and once confessed, your soul is pure again. Basic Christianity 101 lol

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SupaDudz,

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "You are being saved from your sins when you confess them and once confessed, your soul is pure again. Basic Christianity 101 lol"

So, this is one of the "hooks" for Christianity, where one is always forgiven, therefore, there is no reason not to sin! Praise Jesus for such a concept to be able to continually sin with no recourse!

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You don't understand the 7 sacraments of our church, therefore you are not a true Christian. Keep mocking yourself

It isn't enough to simply confess your sins, there has to be an honest effort to do differently. Repentance is what I am talking about.

So the idea that you can just sin wildly and that is ok because you admit it is neither biblical nor what the church teaches.

This post is mainly aimed at doubting Thomas over here, not Supadudz, who probably already knows this.