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And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: Genesis 3:22



So Saddam Hussein for example was god like then when he also ordered the unprovoked genocide gassing against Kurdish women , children and infants in Halabja?

Is this not similar to >>

 Samuel 1: 15-3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Yes  he sounds like a good god doesn't ? A god that loves us; his own creation, including, "women, children and infants" .


“But of the cities of these people,which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth”:Deu: 20:16.
 Yes indeed. This  god is very "good god" isn't he. he's  a clever god too;  getting these dupes to do his dirty work and turning them into killers..
 
But there again, we are created in their  image and we did become one of them.

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It still amazes me that even today that Christians still deny the plurality of the waring gods.
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The gods can war all they like. They began to exist, and they will cease to exist. Time is lord over them. They are created beings.
The Lord of time and all other beings is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality, The One True God.

The Uncreated God reigns supreme, and there is no challenger to His throne. His reign is everlasting.

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So Saddam Hussein for example was god like then when he also ordered the unprovoked genocide gassing against Kurdish women , children and infants in Halabja?

Are you forgetting that God has the ability to choose what It wants when It wants? isn't that part of "in his image"....to be able to consciously choose what path the soul wishes to go? without that ability, wouldn't we be more like in the image of a robot or machine? so yes, while Saddam was able to make his own decisions as God does, they were HIS decisions not Gods.
So according to the Bible, both God and Saddam are able to choose who they annihilate. What would make the difference of course, would be the perception of the two....God's perspective vs Saddam's. So while you can claim Saddam and his ability to choose is made in the image of God you can't equate his perspective to God's perspective, that would be dumb of course. They aren't the same in that sense, only the ability to choose what it wants not why it wants.
Then again, I'm under no obligation to accept any slaughter in the OT as God's doing either. However, I am obligated to know the difference between the two perspectives as you are. 

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Look like you haven't any scholarly books on this topic.
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@EtrnlVw
Are you forgetting that God has the ability to choose what It wants when It wants?

No




isn't that part of "in his image"....to be able to consciously choose what path the soul wishes to go?

Act like gods. Yes this the my point I am making.


without that ability, wouldn't we be more like in the image of a robot or machine?

  Why didn't god do his own dirty work. The bible is full of orders given by god to humans to "put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" and make war in general.      Did they have a choice? Were they to defy their god and creator. Wasn't there a punishment for defying god?

 

so yes, while Saddam was able to make his own decisions as God does,

He was being and acting in the image of his creator:  yes.


they were HIS decisions not Gods.

Yes he made the decision to act exactly as his creator acted.




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@Dynasty
Look like you haven't any scholarly books on this topic.



So the bible doesn't count then. Those verses are after all, from the bible and are clear instructions from god to murder "put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" and make war in general.   


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Considering they were a bunch of orgy throwing butt lovers who sacrificed children and destroyed the Earth through their gluttony and greed, the world is probably a better place without them.

Unless, you know, you like D sauce on your lamb chops and venereal diseases infecting your people.


Watch out America.
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"put to death........, children and infants,  .......Samuel 1: 15-3

Considering they were a bunch of orgy throwing butt lovers who sacrificed children and destroyed the Earth through their gluttony and greed, the world is probably a better place without them.

Oh deary me. Christianity  at work and stripped bare for all to see. But Jesus forgives and loves us , eh Mopac.



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Considering they were a bunch of orgy throwing butt lovers who sacrificed children and destroyed the Earth through their gluttony and greed, the world is probably a better place without them.

Bad job by god making people this way, then, no? 
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"put to death........, children and infants,  .......Samuel 1: 15-3
Considering they were a bunch of orgy throwing butt lovers who sacrificed children and destroyed the Earth through their gluttony and greed, the world is probably a better place without them.


Bad job by god making people this way, then, no? 

In his image, you mean.? Not too clever was he.

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Considering they were a bunch of orgy throwing butt lovers who sacrificed children and destroyed the Earth through their gluttony and greed, the world is probably a better place without them.
And you've been told this by the men attempting to justify their behaviour. Do men lie?

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Much in the way the Hebrews were tasked with purifying the land of Canaan from defilement in order to make it a Holy Land for God, those who walk in The Way are tasked with subdoing the passions and making themselves a Holy Land for God.

The former typifies the later. The later fulfills the former.





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What does or will your god do for you?
Will it give you eternal life?
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God has done all things for me. 
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So no eternal life then? Too bad, that's the only reason he was invented.