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@Bullish
Exactly. You're lynching me because I didn't engage in some sort of weird cyber role play with you.
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Really, if I get lynched because I didn't put eyeball emojis in my post then there is no coming back from this level of stupidity.
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@Speedrace
It's between me and Bullish. Vote one or the other. He's doubling down on this nonsense.

Unvote. VTL Bullish
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@oromagi
Oro I want u to know that I have a scum read on you, so you can vote drafter today to avoid my intense hate boner next DP.
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Oro I want u to know that I have a scum read on you, so you can vote drafter today to avoid my intense hate boner next DP.
This is not something town would say or agree to.
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Final reads

1. Lunatic - town
2. PressF - town
3. Drafterman - SCUM
4. WaterPhoenix - town
5. SpeedRace - town
6. Irontoaster - TP, which is scum in my book
7. Bullish - town
8. iLikePie5 - no read
9. Oromagi - scum
10. Greyparrot - town
11. Singularity - shifty
12. Virtuoso - no read

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3 hours left in the DP, 3 more votes to lynch drafter, that's only 1 per hour! we can do this town. Scum is welcome to bus drafter as well.

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UVC
drafterman- [4/7] Bullish, GreyParrot, Singularity, lunatic
Press - [1/7] oro
Pie- [1/7] PF4R
Bullish - [1/7] Drafter
Speedrace - [1/7] Speedrace

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UNVOTE

VTL ILikePie5 

for activity, character claim, vote 

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@oromagi
We don't have time for that. It's me or bullish.
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@drafterman
What happened to your VTNL?   
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@oromagi
No one is on board with that. People want a lynch so let's give it to them.
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@drafterman


Not much to go on but your game play is inconsistent and a bit frantic in tone. I think we agree that Bull’s aggression has let town down but aggression does not indicate scum, necessarily (often the opposite, in fact)

Mr Garrison is a likely candidate for scum. We don’t know how characters relate to roles yet but confirming you is more likely informative than others 

In a him or me dynamic (usually anti-town), you lose right now. 
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@oromagi
Then vote. Your vote on Pie will not have any effect as the DP is almost to a close. So put your vote someplace that matters.
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@drafterman
Explain the advantage to  town in your pressing for a vote, particularly since it’s your neck in the noose?
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@oromagi
It's advantage for town for people to be active and productive. At this stage the only vote that matters is a vote on me or a vote on bullish. That is the only vote that has the potential to realize an actual outcome given the time remaining. There are only two reasons not to do that:

1. You don't want either of us lynched. This means you don't vote for either, but that is an implicit vote for a No lynch, so you might as well just VTNL
2. You don't want to put your vote because putting your vote on a wagon commits you to an action you have to take responsibility for later.

If it's #1, then VTNL and encourage others to do the same. There is not enough time left in this DP to pressure people for claims or activity, so any action toward that end is useless.

If it's #2, that is scummy. Scum wants to avoid being accountable for bad things happening whereas a Town member, even when they make bad choices, usually has some sort of honest reason for doing what they do.

In the end I judge a bad vote to be better than a pointless vote or no vote at all.

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Also, I'd like people to take notice that Lunatic and Singularity have been online recently, but have no more thoughts to add to the matter. Bullish is basically forced to double down on this nonsense, but Lunatic and Singularity are just passively letting this lynch happen.

This is scummy as shit.

At the very least we all know that Lunatic - when town - will actively pursue a lynch until it is a done deal.
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@Vader
Is plurality lynching in effect?
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@drafterman
 No it takes 7/12 to lynch no less
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@Vader
Majority =/= plurality.

Majority means a person needs a majority number of votes to be lynched (e.g. 7); plurality means that the person with the most votes is lynched, even if they do not have a majority.
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@Vader
Okay, that's majority. Thanks.
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drafterman- [4/7] Bullish, GreyParrot, Singularity, Lunatic
Bullish- [1/7] Drafter
Pie- [2/7] oromagi, PF4R
Singularity- [1/7] Speed

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UNVOTE

VTL drafterman


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drafterman- [5/7] Bullish, GreyParrot, Singularity, Lunatic, oromagi
Bullish- [1/7] Drafter
Pie- [1/7] PF4R
Singularity- [1/7] Speed

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drafterman- [5/7] Bullish, GreyParrot, Singularity, Lunatic, oromagi
Bullish- [1/7] Drafter
Pie- [1/7] PF4R
Singularity- [1/7] Speed

about an hour remain

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@drafterman
My vote is staying on Singularity regardless of whether he has other people on him or not

I don't really care about lynching that much, plus my dreamer ability will reveal stuff too
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@Singularity
DO NOT DOCTOR ME

If you do that it will mess up my dreaming ability