THE ULTIMATE TRUTH

Author: 3RU7AL

Posts

Total: 16
Topic's author
#1
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
If I told you I knew the secret to the meaning of life and ultimate truth, but I refused to tell you exactly what it was, WOULD YOU BELIEVE ME?

Oh yeah, I know it.

TOTALLY.

Just trust me.

And if you don't believe me, YOU MUST BE A DIRTY COMMIE CANNIBAL!!

You can't go around telling people you "follow supercoolawesome objective eternal principles" and then REFUSE to provide a LIST.

How can you "follow" something if you don't know exactly what it is or exactly where it is?

The whole point of "objective principles" is to provide PRACTICAL REAL-WORLD-GUIDELINES that are NOT subject to OPINION.

Any "objective principle" would necessarily be OBVIOUS and easily identifiable to everyone everywhere. [LINK]
#2
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
wow this means nothing, another empty post!
Topic's author
#3
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Dr.Franklin
wow this means nothing, another empty post!
Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful critique!
#4
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@3RU7AL
Your welcome!
Topic's author
#5
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Good thing you don't have any of those pesky "objective moral principles"!
#6
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@3RU7AL
I do
Topic's author
#7
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Can you reveal any of them?
#8
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@3RU7AL
Murder
Topic's author
#9
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Dr.Franklin
When is killing justified?
#10
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@3RU7AL
Death Penalty,wars
Topic's author
#11
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Are you suggesting the death penalty is always justified?

Are you suggesting that war is always justified?
#12
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,673
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@3RU7AL
yes
#13
WaterPhoenix
WaterPhoenix's avatar
Debates: 12
Posts: 2,094
3
3
10
WaterPhoenix's avatar
WaterPhoenix
3
3
10
*mind blows open*
#14
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
@Dr.Franklin
@WaterPhoenix
Are you suggesting the death penalty is always justified?

yes

*mind blows open*


#15
Stephen
Stephen's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 8,615
3
2
2
Stephen's avatar
Stephen
3
2
2
-->
@3RU7AL
If I told you I knew the secret to the meaning of life and ultimate truth, but I refused to tell you exactly what it was, WOULD YOU BELIEVE ME?


  No. And neither would a devout Christian. The devout Christian would probably accuse you of being a  godless pagan without morals but  without any single shred of evidence to support their accusation and ask you to prove your ungodly outrageous claim. 

But they will, without question, believe in god and the bible being the word of god without a single shred of evidence to support their own outrageous beliefs.  

Topic's author
#16
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Discipulus_Didicit
That is Piso's justice. Verbally right, but morally wrong. Seneca tells us that Piso condemned a man on circumstancial evidence for murder; but when the suspect was at the place of execution, the man supposed to have been murdered exclaimed, “Hold, hold! I am the man supposed to have been killed.” The centurion sent back the prisoner to Piso, and explained the case to him; whereupon Piso condemned all three to death, saying, “Fiat justitia.” The man condemned is to be executed because sentence of death has been passed upon him, and fiat justitia; the centurion is to be executed because he has disobeyed orders, and fiat justitia; the man supposed to have been murdered is to be executed because he has been the cause of death to two innocent men, and fiat justitia etsi coelum ruat.

Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894 [LINK]   

Thanks for the link!