this article describes the research that establishes the claim
trump supporters are disproportionately low information voters
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@n8nrgmi
And low indoctrinated too apparently.
Absolutely Deplorable, says the indoctrinating elites.
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@n8nrgmi
I'm not paying a dollar to read that. Could you, perhaps, explain the article in your own words?
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@bmdrocks21
some people said some things, heard some things from some people and repeated them, that probably sums it up best.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
@bmdrocks21
Not the same article but I don't think any of this is new information
Trump voters in general have less cognitive ability, less facts and less reasoning which leaves them susceptible to Trumps rhetoric.
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@bmdrocks21
there must be an article limit per month or something. i didn't have a problem accessing it. but the main point is that they found a way to determine how informed a sample study was about government and in general. then they looked at which of those people were trump supporters and saw they were more prone to being low information voters.
there's three points about trump supporters for those who are paying attention to the threads on this stuff... they have less education, they are less informed, and they have lower mental aptitude.
Here's an example from another thread.
all higher education isn't verifiable.
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@n8nrgmi
I obviously can't read what the article said(there is a monthly limit). Could it be that they are mostly single-issue voters? Immigration is a very big issue currently, and that is his main issue. I could see people that only care about fixing our immigration system voting for him.
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@bmdrocks21
I could see people that only care about fixing our immigration system voting for him.
for all their education and "smarts" they still haven't been able to figure how and why Trump was elected. They certainly can't blame themselves right? This idea that only dumb people voted for him helps them sleep better at night since their teddy bears just are comforting enough. I love these threads, really I do. Who are the dumb people really, those who voted for Trump or those who treated others, conducted themselves etc that forced or made people want to vote for him?
They still don't care about the deplorables nor are they interested in winning them over, obviously. The division is growing and they like it that way.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Yeah, when they act like elitists who won't even acknowledge how the other side thinks or feels, they have to realize they are going to win. You can't just call the other side idiots and expect that to go well- Hillary is proof of that.
Then you have people that are "so right" that they don't even have to explain their position. Look to 99% of climate change debates, and you'll see that those in favor of government intervention are never willing to have a conversation.
They prefer to sit in their ivory towers.
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@bmdrocks21
Here's an example from another thread.
all higher education isn't verifiable.
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@n8nrgmi
there's three points about trump supporters for those who are paying attention to the threads on this stuff... they have less education, they are less informed, and they have lower mental aptitude.
Says the indoctrinating elites. Ever heard of Mockingbird?
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@disgusted
Disgusted is one of those Milgram study monkeys who will keep pushing the buttons that Authority tells him to push and vote the way people in power tell him to vote like a good "well informed" person.
Colleges were purchased long, long ago to prevent people from questioning authority and questioning the government. It's an elite club, and you aint in it as George Carlin used to say.
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@n8nrgmi
@bmdrocks21
The Washington Post has a limit of the number of articles a person can access from a device so Ill go ahead and post the relevant parts of the article here:
1 - Many commentators have noted what Thomas Edsall has called the “great democratic inversion,” where voters have become more polarized by education, with less-educated voters gravitating to Trump. But focusing only on education obscures another key factor: whether voters have lower levels of knowledge about politics and less interest in using ideas to understand politics. These attributes do not simply reflect voters’ level of formal education.
2 - We define low-information voters as those who do not know certain basic facts about government and lack what psychologists call a “need for cognition..... Those with a low need for cognition, on the other hand, find little reward in the collection and evaluation of new information when it comes to problem solving and the consideration of competing issue positions. They are more likely to rely on cognitive shortcuts, such as “experts” or other opinion leaders, for cues.
3 - We measured knowledge of government based on a question asking 1) how long senators’ terms were and 2) a question on which of four policy areas the government spends the least (the answer was foreign aid; the other options were Medicare, national defense and Social Security). We focused our analysis on whites because nonwhites were not supporting Trump in sufficient numbers...... we found that people who did not know either of these questions about government evaluated Trump 20 points more favorably than Clinton, compared with those who knew both of those questions. This was not true in 2012: Knowledge of politics had little relationship with people’s views of Mitt Romney and Obama.
4 - These data are from January 2016, and Trump’s support may well have shifted. He has lost ground among women in particular
5 - People have many good reasons for being mad about how the established political leadership has failed them, whether it is on trade deals, jobs, inequality, health care or other issues. Trump appeals to many of the disaffected. Nonetheless, a core part of his base is made up of low-information voters who appear more susceptible to Trump’s appeals based on race and religion and less prepared to challenge his misstatements and untruths.
TLDR: Basically data from Jan of 2016 shows there is an idiocy anomaly where people who dont know shit about politics substantially favored Trump more than Hillary, where these voters were assessed based on knowledge of common entry-level facts that are taught in a typical middle school rather then their highest level of achieved education..... This idiocy anomaly continues to persist to this day, was NOT a present factor between the Obama and Romney race in 2012, and shows no signs of going away despite the charges and accusations levied against Trump
Anyone who registers as a Republican or a Democrat is a low information voter.
Ask George Carlin about it.
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@n8nrgmi
Trump is going to win 2024 with the Independent vote, of whom are not educated from either CNN or Fox news.
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@n8nrgmi
no one cares, these are the people who want to live their lives and work their job to feed their family, they don't have time to riot and be uncivilized, and be hateful of everything in their way, they are the silent majority and the peaceful people of America. These people are great, and to claim that liberals are somehow "enlightened" by college degrees is BS. Let people do their own thing.
the washington post fact check is wrong, Trump likes to boast
plues educated by what, CNN, no educated by independet voters
these studies are not a surprise. if ya have any doubts that trump supporters are imbeciles, just try talking to em.
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@n8nrgmi
Ok Hillary.
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@Greyparrot
they just can't see the forest for the trees
if you want to preserve what liberty is left, if you want as little government intrusion into your life as possible there is only one way to realistically vote and you don't need any kind of degree to figure that one out. Always amazes me how people with fancy degrees can be so stupid.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Yah, the moment you decide NOT to register as Independent is the exact moment when a politician can write you off and not care about you. The politician will predictably go about catering to get the independent voters by listening to their needs. The politician then ignores your needs as a registered party member by playing superficial partisan lip service. This goes for both parties.
Any "well informed" person already knows this about politics.
As an aside, I find it HILLARIOUS that all these "well informed" Democratic voters have purposefully pushed a sham impeachment upon their party that's 90% toxic to independent voters through polling and focus groups. They might be "well informed" in regards to their partisan party talking points, but they have no clue what is going on outside of that bubble. To an outsider, it almost appears as if the registered Democrats are trolling their own party!
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@Greyparrot
I haven't considered it the part of democrats for a long time, they have strayed so far from what they were it's not longer recognizable. They should be honest and take on the socialist monicher.
If it's true that we're "low information voters" then why not convince Trump supporters to support someone else instead, like Bernie Sanders? After all, we don't know any better and we need someone smarter than us mindless sheep to guide us in the right direction, right?
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@Christen
If it's true that we're "low information voters" then why not convince Trump supporters to support someone else instead, like Bernie Sanders? After all, we don't know any better and we need someone smarter than us mindless sheep to guide us in the right direction, right?
in a divided society, if you can control the majority then that's all that matters. It would be impossible to control a unified society that isn't aligned with your politics. Never forget these people running the country have no honor, fake morality and empathy. They don't care about anyone except their own kind, the rich elites. It's that simple. The pandering and never kept, hollow promises should make that obvious.
The irony is people know what to expect from someone like Trump, the left is willingly blind to the horrible candidates they run. But they are blind, dependant lemmings so there's that.
Trump "voters" know exactly what the left has to offer and doesn't want any part of that. That doesn't require much of an education to figure out, just a little common sense and a tad of critical thinking. They would rather bad mouth half the population than to actually acknowledge what these voters already know and aren't willing to accept, socialism.
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