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@ethang5
I believe there is no life anywhere else in the universe.
How about afterlife?
What do you consider to be bad actions?
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@TheRealNihilist
Are you asking if "afterlifers" exist somewhere in the universe?
Do you mean moral bad or legal bad?
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@ethang5
Are you asking if "afterlifers" exist somewhere in the universe?
? I am asking if you die you will go to heaven or hell.
Do you mean moral bad or legal bad?
Moral bad.
1. Heaven
2. Bad moral actions are actions that go against the laws God set down for us.
Now you. Same questions.
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@ethang5
Do you think Hell exists as well?1. Heaven
2. Bad moral actions are actions that go against the laws God set down for us.Now you. Same questions.
Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others.
How do you know they are from God?
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@ethang5
What laws are they?
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@TheRealNihilist
Hell is a state, not a place. But yes, what Jesus said about it true. You didn't answer this question.Do you think Hell exists as well?
Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others.
We who? So you consider bad moral actions to be based on what we decide?
How do you know they are from God?
No sir. This will be a discussion, not an interrogation. If you don't answer my questions, I won't answer yours.
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@ethang5
Hell is a state, not a place.
Is it not forever?
We who? So you consider bad moral actions to be based on what we decide?
Yes.
No sir. This will be a discussion, not an interrogation. If you don't answer my questions, I won't answer yours.
So...
How do you know they are from God?
Go back, answer my question. If you won't, fine, but repeating your question will be met with no answer.
You atheists tend to think theists owe you answers. We don't. And I could not care less for what you think if you believe only your questions are worth answering.
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@ethang5
I am guessing you mean this:
Now you. Same questions.
Nope to afterlife.
Bad moral actions are defined whatever we want it to be.
It might be
We who?
Yes we but I hope we can rely on more qualified people but that doesn't seem likely.
So you consider bad moral actions to be based on what we decide?
Yes.
I answered all the questions you gave me.
Is it not forever?
I'm not sure I know what you mean. Hell is death. It is permanent. No one is alive or conscious in hell. Souls are destroyed. That is hell.
Different decide different things about morality. So who is "we"?
If we decided that raping babies was moral, would it be moral?
Because the bible says so.
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@ethang5
I'm not sure I know what you mean. Hell is death. It is permanent. No one is alive or conscious in hell. Souls are destroyed. That is hell.
So soulless people should be punished forever for lets say an 80 year lifespan?
Are you going to answer this?
How do you know they are from God?
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@ethang5
Please explain.Different decide different things about morality.
So who is "we"?
Me, you and everyone else.
If we decided that raping babies was moral, would it be moral?
Yes. A real life example would be the animal farming farmers do. Majority of the time they are caged and killed for our pleasure.
Because the bible says so.
Why do you trust the Bible?
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@TheRealNihilist
Huh? Who are soulless people? Who said anything about punishment?So soulless people should be punished forever for lets say an 80 year lifespan?
Debate me, not the atheist caricature in your head.
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@TheRealNihilist
I trust the bible because its true.
So is there any moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
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@ethang5
What laws are they?
I think you deliberately avoided this question because you have no answer.
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@ethang5
Okay.Huh? Who are soulless people? Who said anything about punishment?
I trust the bible because its true.
How do you know it is true?
So is there any moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
Inherently no but I don't imagine a lot of moral standards would have them be the same thing.
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@TheRealNihilist
How do you know anything is true? It is congruent with reality.
But your Moral standard calls them the same thing. I would never let you near my children.
Do you rape babies?
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@ethang5
Do have an example of reality?How do you know anything is true? It is congruent with reality.
But your Moral standard calls them the same thing.
What do you mean?
I would never let you near my children.
Okay?
Do you rape babies?
No.
How do you know anything is true? It is congruent with reality.
Do have an example of reality?
Do you?
So is there any moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
Inherently no but I don't imagine a lot of moral standards would have them be the same thing.
Your Moral standard calls them the same thing.
What do you mean?
You said there is inherently no moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them. Thus your Moral standard calls them morally the same thing.
Do you rape babies?
No.
Why not? For you, it isn't immoral.
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@ethang5
What laws are they?
I think you deliberately avoided this question because you have no answer
Run run runaway, you poor little godist with no clue.
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@ethang5
What laws are they?
I think you deliberately avoided this question because you have no answer
Run run runaway, you poor little godist with no clue.
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@ethang5
So is there any moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
I'm not surprised that you need to be informed of the difference, your hate is overwhelming.
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@ethang5
Do you?
Why did you pass the question to me and are you going to answer the question?
Your Moral standard calls them the same thing.
How so?
You said there is inherently no moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them. Thus your Moral standard calls them morally the same thing.
This isn't my moral standard. I am simply stating what is. There is no inherent difference between the two doesn't mean I personally treat the two to be the same.
Please this again: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3190/questions?page=1&post_number=6
"Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others."
Why not? For you, it isn't immoral.
Given that it harms others I wouldn't do it.
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@TheRealNihilist
Do you?
Why did you pass the question to me...
I often do that with dumb questions.
...and are you going to answer the question?
My answer was my question.
Your Moral standard calls them the same thing.
How so?
You said there is inherently no moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them. Thus your Moral standard calls them morally the same thing.
This isn't my moral standard.
I asked you for your moral belief.
I am simply stating what is. There is no inherent difference between the two doesn't mean I personally treat the two to be the same.
Why not? If you believe there is no moral difference between the two, why do you not personally treat the two to be the same? Why do you behave differently to how you believe?
Please this again: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3190/questions?page=1&post_number=6"Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others."
You contradict yourself. You now seem to believe raping babies is morally different from nurturing babies because rape harms the baby.
Which is it? And I'm asking for your view, not societies view. So, is there a moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
Why not? For you, it isn't immoral.
Given that it harms others I wouldn't do it.
Then it IS morally different. You either lied or was wrong about your own morality.
Would you rape a dead body?
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@ethang5
I often do that with dumb questions.
Okay then in reality if I put something in the microwave and set a timer it will eventually heat up.
I caused the microwave to heat up the thing by setting the timer and the effect was the thing having an increased in temperature.
Do you disagree?
I asked you for your moral belief.
This is my belief "Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others."
Why do you behave differently to how you believe?
I don't like to do it and I value not bringing harm to others since I don't think it brings me happiness.
You now seem to believe raping babies is morally different from nurturing babies because rape harms the baby.
No you asked me if there was no moral difference between the two I said no. See post #16 for the question and post #18 for the answer. I simply decide to morally apply to be happy to be good and to cause harm to be bad.
So, is there a moral difference between raping babies and nurturing them?
Inherently no but for my moral standard yes.
Then it IS morally different. You either lied or was wrong about your own morality.
I accept there is no difference between two actions yet still apply something to it. I can say there is no moral difference between gardening and playing video games while also choosing to like video games more. These are not contradictory because I am talking about them in two difference instances. One is what is another is what I like to do.
Would you rape a dead body?
Nope because I don't think it will bring me happiness and can harm the family that is still around that cares about the dead person.
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@TheRealNihilist
A pedophile doesn't think sex with a 14 year old harms her. Would you punish him for sex with a 14 year old?This is my belief "Whatever we decide that brings about the most happiness while not harming others."
I value not bringing harm to others since I don't think it brings me happiness
1. What about the person who values bringing harm to others, is he less moral than you?
2. If bringing harm to others brought you happiness, would you do it?
Test your morality in a real world case.
Opposing Hitler would bring horrible harm to millions. Would you have opposed Hitler or surrendered to him to avoid harm to others?
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@ethang5
I don't think a pedophile would have the same understanding nor moral standard as me but even if someone thinks something doesn't mean they are true. A pedophile under the law will be punished and I accept that.A pedophile doesn't think sex with a 14 year old harms her. Would you punish him for sex with a 14 year old?
1. What about the person who values bringing harm to others, is he less moral than you?
Under my moral standard yes.
2. If bringing harm to others brought you happiness, would you do it?
I guess but then I would have to change my moral standard thus being a different person given the new moral standard and actions I would commit.
Test your morality in a real world case.
I like video games so I play it. I don't harming people so I don't do it.
Opposing Hitler would bring horrible harm to millions. Would you have opposed Hitler or surrendered to him to avoid harm to others?
Why would opposing Hitler bring harm to millions? I'll answer your question if you sufficiently answer this.
Okay then in reality if I put something in the microwave and set a timer it will eventually heat up.I caused the microwave to heat up the thing by setting the timer and the effect was the thing having an increased in temperature.Do you disagree?
Answer?
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@TheRealNihilist
I don't think a pedophile would have the same understanding nor moral standard as me...
why not? A pedophile can also be a nihilist.
A pedophile under the law will be punished and I accept that.
Not the question I asked. Would he be punished if you made the laws?
Under my moral standard yes.
But he isn't under your moral standard. This is a yes or no question.
If bringing harm to others brought you happiness, would you do it?
I guess but then I would have to change my moral standard thus being a different person given the new moral standard and actions I would commit.
You ave what is called the morality of pleasure. Pleasure is good/moral, and suffering is bad/immoral. It is one of the absolute worst moral systems to have.
Why would opposing Hitler bring harm to millions?
Because Hitler would only respond to force. Either you surrender, or fight, which means war. What would you have done during world war II? Fought or surrendered?
Answer?
No.