Office Mafia Day 1

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@ILikePie5
You really expect me to believe that?
See post 389.


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I agree. Do you think he could mix it up? Like some have justification and relevancy while some don’t?
Not sure. Just went through a couple of his older end games to see how he does his roles.  The other two games had roles with thematic relevancy in the description but they are 1-2 years old. 

I was just looking into my role here, and I was trying to decide if my role had a distinct "reason" for it. The wording is vague but I decided the answer was no. Then drafter also said his didn't have a link either. Now GP is saying his distinctly does. So we may have to wait to see some flips.

We don’t know if he’s lying...
I know.

So we have a possible CC and you don’t want to lynch in that CC? I’m not a fan.
It doesn't sound like a CC to me. I'm not inclined to openly speculate what I think his role is, but I think it's a bit dense to assume from his statements that he was actually CC'ing him. His verbiage just made it seemed as if his role could potentially dis-prove Speed's claim (he later said his role might confirm it after further thoughts) and we are operating under the idea that there is a potential gambit going on. I don't think PressF is stupid enough to outright claim cop with no reason. Delving into this DP seems pointless, It's best to see how it plays out and question his ploy next DP imo.


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@Lunatic
I'd like to hear more from airmax and pie about the SA wagon. They are both great mafia players and I trust their judgements. Also would like to see if they have picked up any good leads. I respect drafters opinion too, but he seems like he also might be sold on the SA lynch. 

Haven’t watched Office so I don’t know for sure. But based on numbers I’m comfident there are is at least one mafia on the wagon right now. There are like 4-5 who said AJ makes no sense and they can’t all be mafia so I’m inclined to believe them. I’d say he’s a safe Policy, I’m looking more into behavior rn
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@ILikePie5
This is me Pie, not fucking drafter
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All right I'm more or less caught up, and I feel that we can afford a mislynch here, so...

VTL Sir

I don’t like this. You never vote for someone you think is town,
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you just jinxed it
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This is me Pie, not fucking drafter

Wtf is this supposed to mean?
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@ILikePie5
you think is town,
huh?


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Not getting a justification.
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I literally react to posts what I see first. I may post something about a read I make in post 88. I am reactionary. Whatever I see that's fishy I post. Then I saw the post, and then come to 190
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@WaterPhoenix
huh

You think SA will be a mislynch, so either you’re scum or don’t know what you’re saying
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I literally react to posts what I see first. I may post something about a read I make in post 88. I am reactionary. Whatever I see that's fishy I post. Then I saw the post, and then come to 190

Ok, which post was a reaction to which?
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@ILikePie5
188 was reacting to his claim of Dwight as Cop

190 was his post where he said "shhh, you will see why"
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@ILikePie5
Not getting a justification.
Is that in response to post 375 where I asked what was interesting?


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@ILikePie5
Can you condense your main scumreads into one post, or are you still catching up with the thread?
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shhh, you will see why"

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180 and 182
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@ILikePie5
No, what I meant to say if it wasn't clear was that it would be fine if it was a mislynch, not that it was a mislynch.
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I explicitly stated (I think I can't remember) that it's not a CC. I know for a fact that I explicitly stated that everything I said was specifically because of balance

1. The first thing I said was that my role may prove that Press is lying about being a cop. To clarify that, it is ONLY because of balance, so I could be wrong about it
2. My role would corroborate him not being a cop, but again because of balance
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@oromagi
I mixed up press and speeds name. Reverse then when what I say makes no sense
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@SirAnonymous
Can you condense your main scumreads into one post, or are you still catching up with the thread?

I’ll do better, I’ll give my reads

Scum

Supa - he’s being hypocritical in his analysis and straight up lying while advocating for LaL

Lean Scum

Speedrace - I don’t like his push for Press to revea what he really is since the push is inherently pro-scum since they want to know whether it’s a gambit of some sorts or an actual role

SirAnonymous - this is more of a concurrence reading since I don’t know much about the show. Behaviorally, I can see him research fake claims as well along with the justification.

Airmax1227 - inactivity and random character claim. Don’t really like the latter since it was unnecessary (weakest scum read however do to soft claim)

Null

drafterman - He’s been contributing but I still have to to analyze behavior on an individual basis. Rating bound to change in future

Oromagi - not much too go on. His scumplay involves lurking so down the stretch if this continues I’d be concerned.

Greyparrot - he’s being himself. Hard to do objective analysis cause his play is random.

WaterPhoenix - inactive for the most part. Don’t like his willingness to lynch someone who he thinks is town tho. Rating may change with more info

Wylted - inactive ; ploy could be an attempt to get a real vig if he exists to reveal themselves.


Lean Town

PressF - no reason for him to commit to a gambit without reason

Lunatic - very active and thoughtfulness shown through reads and analysis


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@Speedrace
The balance thing only makes sense if you are an investigation role, which you deny
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@Vader
180 and 182

How are these at all related to GP being scum or not?
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@Speedrace
I explicitly stated (I think I can't remember) that it's not a CC. I know for a fact that I explicitly stated that everything I said was specifically because of balance

1. The first thing I said was that my role may prove that Press is lying about being a cop. To clarify that, it is ONLY because of balance, so I could be wrong about it
2. My role would corroborate him not being a cop, but again because of balance

But at the same time you claim to not be an investigative role. How does balance factor in if you’re not an Investigstive role?
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@ILikePie5
I can't tell you that without claiming lol
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@Wylted
Untrue.
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@Speedrace
I can't tell you that without claiming lol

Then it’s not a balance issue lol. And you’re phishing for his real claim
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@ILikePie5
I'll tell you this one fact though: it isn't the first time this has happened
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@ILikePie5
I *was*

Not anymore lol