---Lucid Dreamers Mafia: DP 1---

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In this setup, there are dreamers who are town and one nightmare who is mafia. Dreamer and nightmare actions work the same. Each night, every player can submit a "dream" in which anything they describe could happen! Nightmares still have the optional kill.

  • At night, each player may submit any action they want.
  • I reserve the right to limit or reject game-breaking actions.
  • I reserve the right to interpret vague actions as they see fit.
  • I may restrict actions to affect only one target.
  • I may restrict killing actions and allow the Nightmares a factional kill.

(Rules copied from the wiki)

Alive Players

1. SirAnonymous
2. PressF4Respect
3. Lunatic
4. SupaDudz
5. WaterPhoenix

All standard rules apply.

For new peeps:

The goal is to lynch all mafia members. You vote during the day and submit actions at night. Mafia tries to kill all town.

Have fun!

The DP ends at 7:22 PM, October 25th. With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
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Dream big! :)

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All dreams must be in a dream format. Simply saying something such as "Investigate X player" is not ok. You would have to say something such as "I sneak into the house of X player to determine the alignment of him/her."
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Huh, this is a nice format
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@Speedrace
Can dreamers kill then? 
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No, only Nightmares

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So if we do a dream it just happens? Like if 5 people all choose investigative abilities we all get results? Can we use multiple abilities in the same night?
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Interesting idea for a mafia game. What do we do in the first day, since we have no info?
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Also, dreamers are not allowed to use the words "scum," "nightmare," or similar words.
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That depends on how I interpret it, and I can and will limit gamebreaking actions.
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@SirAnonymous
Simply talk to people and try to figure out who is mafia by their behavior
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Probably not the most pro town way to use a dream
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Wait, so we can't actually lynch?
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You can lol
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@Lunatic
That's an interesting thought. However, Speedrace didn't say we couldn't until asked, so it did make sense to ask it.
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That means I can have sexy time with my crush yesss
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lol
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Yes
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First thing 
VTL ORO

wait wait fuck....


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I'm new at this, but I would suggest dragging this first round out until the last day to get as much info as possible, then vote for no lynch. With so few people, we can't afford to mislynch.
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@Lunatic
Not really, if we all go kill random people then there's a high chance one of those blindly selected people are mafia.
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@SirAnonymous
Hmm, I don't know bout quickfire mafia but in regular mafia usually, it's best to get a lynch.

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@WaterPhoenix
If we lynch now and the mafia kills someone, there will only be two dreamers left with very little to go on after only one round. They will have one shot with low odds.
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@WaterPhoenix
Not really, if we all go kill random people then there's a high chance one of those blindly selected people are mafia.
Not a high chance at all, actually. A very low chance. Considering game balance, I would say its safe to assume with 5 players there is only one who is mafia. Two mafia means that one mislynch equals a mafia win. So if you are town with a vigilante kill you have only a 25% chance of correctly killing mafia in the first night.Also if we all blindly use a kill tonight, theres a good chance the game would be over np1, that sounds what I think would qualify as "Gamebreaking". Also a lot less fun than actually scum hunting and finding out scum through behavioral analysis tactics.

Rather, I think the correct move would be for town to use as many protective type roles as possible. If mafia gets two kills and two mis-lynches they win. I'd hope to see doctors and bulletproofs tonight.
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What do you think about the set up? Whats the best actions to use?
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Rather, I think the correct move would be for town to use as many protective type roles as possible. If mafia gets two kills and two mis-lynches they win. I'd hope to see doctors and bulletproofs tonight.
This sounds like a good idea, but it might be considered gamebreaking if everyone is protected, because then the mafia would be unable to win.
What do you think about the set up? Whats the best actions to use?
 I don't know. What do you think about a combination of cops and doctors?

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I just realized that cops might be useless. Since the nightmare can also use a dream ability, he would just make himself a godfather every time.
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@SirAnonymous
This sounds like a good idea, but it might be considered gamebreaking if everyone is protected, because then the mafia would be unable to win.
Mafia can still get mislynches, 

I don't know. What do you think about a combination of cops and doctors?
Depends on if we get a mislynch today. If we mis-lynch we get an automatic LYLO the following phase, in which I am dis-inclined to believe any results. Might be worth considering a no lynch today unless there is really scummy behavior we just can't ignore. 
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I just realized that cops might be useless. Since the nightmare can also use a dream ability, he would just make himself a godfather every time.
Well that too. I would suggest people get creative with their roles, tracker, watcher results are probably more useful investigative roles if we don't mislynch today. 

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I agree.

VTNL