But let's be honest.
He hasn't got a clue has he?
Donald even makes G Dubya look clever.
I once had high hopes for Donald.
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@zedvictor4
I had a little bit of hope too at one point. I mean he was a democrat a few years ago. He obviously doesn't actually believe in the hardline republican policies. But once he started packing his cabinet with right wing ideologues and giving his family important positions it became clear that his goal was just to benefit himself. And also that he was too dumb to be able to find profits for himself without screwing over the whole country.
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@zedvictor4
Donald Trump is a way better shit talker than Bush.
Also, satire of Dubya was funnier. Donald Trump is more entertaining than the people making fun of him. The people making fun of him are so mean spirited! I dunno.
And that is really my biggest disappointment in Trump. I thought his election would single handedly revitalize the satire industry.
I do think Donald Trump more than anyone before him has exposed how the news media is political activism and propaganda rather than real news. Like, all these news stations didn't become "fake news" as he says over night, it has always been this way! But the dishonest coverage they run damn near 24/7 of the president has woken a lot of people up. Seeing so many people come to this realization since 2015 has filled me with warm fuzzies.
Whether Trump wins the election or not, I am still very concerned about the future of The United States.
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@Mopac
And that is really my biggest disappointment in Trump. I thought his election would single handedly revitalize the satire industry.
It's hard to make good satire when the subject of the satire is the biggest joke of all. I mean drawing on a government weather map to try to convince people your tweet wasn't wrong? That is just so stupid on the face of it that no joke can capture it properly.
But the dishonest coverage they run damn near 24/7 of the president has woken a lot of people up.
I don't disagree that all corporate media has a spin and a bias. They certainly do. But most of what they say about him is based in reality. He is the stupid, racist, misogynist asshole they say he is. Now they certainly show bias when they point this out, and not every example they use is valid. But their underlying argument is usually based in fact.
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@zedvictor4
People had high hopes for Obama as well, but they were too early to judge him. You don't know the effects of many decisions until long after the president is gone.
Case in point is the Nobel Peace Prize awarded before Obama actually did anything to earn it.
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@HistoryBuff
You can say a lot bad things about Trump that are true, but I don't believe he is stupid, racist, or misogynistic.
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@Greyparrot
Obama was really bad for the satire industry. I guess following Bush and Clinton might have contributed to this perception since there was just so much material there to work with as far as their personalities go. Obama could be pretty charming at times, but I don't think the satire industry could get past the fact that he is black. I don't really like race humor, especially in mainstream entertainment, as I don't appreciate low life culture being tied to blackness. Unfortunately, that seems to be mainstream entertainment's approach to race humor.
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@Mopac
The problem with humor in the age of Obama was that any kind of attack on Obama was labeled as racist, so you were not allowed to criticize him.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah, that probably had a lot to do with it too.
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@Mopac
Listen to this interview.
There is so much more going on with the Kurd situation than the narrative the gaslighting corporate media would have you believe.
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@Greyparrot
I watch like 8 hours of CNN every weekday(it is what is on the tv at my work).
If you watch that much CNN, it is really hard to not catch on to what they are doing unless you are seriously gulping down that koolaid.
Also, something about having that shit forcefed to you all day makes you want to hear the other side. Or at least it does for me.
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@Mopac
You can say a lot bad things about Trump that are true, but I don't believe he is stupid, racist, or misogynistic.
For stupid - He can't spell. He does obviously stupid things like drawing with a sharpie on a government map to try to convince people his tweets weren't wrong. He appoints incredibly incompetent people to government posts. He lets Rudy Giuliani speak for him. He released a partial transcript of a call in which he explicitly committed a crime and was shocked that the impeachment inquiry went ahead. He went to a disaster area and threw paper towels at people. He rambles on and on without really making sense. I can keep going a long time with this so I will cut it off here.
For racist- He called mexican immigrants rapists (and some might be good people). He said that several members of congress were from "countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe" when 3 of the 4 of them were born in america and all were US citizens. But they aren't white so he assumes they must be foreigners. He got sued in the 70's by the department of justice for refusing to rent his apartments to black people. Trump took out a full page add in the paper calling for the execution of 5 black teenagers who had been wrongly convicted of a crime. As of 2016, more than a decade after they were proven innocent, he still said he thinks they're guilty. The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices. In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
This one can keep going all day too so i will stop here.
For misogynistic - Here are some quotes.
"Look at that face. Would anybody vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?" [Sept. 9, 2015]
"She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever." [Aug. 7, 2015]
"Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?'" [Dec. 29, 2006]
"You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women. If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead. … You've got to be strong. You've got to be aggressive. You've got to push back hard. You've got to deny anything that's said about you. Never admit." [Via Bob Woodward's Fear: Trump in the White House]
"She does have a very nice figure ... if [she] weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." [June 4, 2004]
When asked if Ivanka, then 24, had breast implants: "She's actually always been very voluptuous." [2006]
When asked if he would stay with Melania if she was disfigured in a car crash: "How do the breasts look?" [April 11, 2005]
About his then infant daughter Tiffany - "Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla. She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs." Motioning to his chest, Trump added: "We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell." [1994]
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@HistoryBuff
Yeah, believe me, everyone in the country has heard all that nearly constantly for the last few years.
I don't believe Trump is racist or misogynistic, and that is partly to do with the fact that I listen to the guy myself and come to my own conclusions rather than believe the media's hysteria.
As I said, you could find a lot of bad things about the guy that are true, but I don't believe he is racist or anything like that.
Fyi, I don't think being a womanizing man pig makes you misogynistic. I think Donald Trump loves his women very much.
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@Mopac
I don't believe Trump is racist or misogynistic, and that is partly to do with the fact that I listen to the guy myself and come to my own conclusions rather than believe the media's hysteria.
I didn't give you any media hysteria. i gave you quotes and descriptions of things he said and did. None of the events and quotes I gave you are interpretations. They are facts. you can really look at that list of racist things he has said and done and tell me none of them are racist?
Fyi, I don't think being a womanizing man pig makes you misogynistic.
Being a womanizing man pig and misogynistic are pretty much synonyms. You can see it in his criticisms of opponents who are female. He constantly attacks them based on their looks and female characteristics. He constantly calls them ugly, fat, bleeding from their "whatever". that is misogyny. I mean even his own daughters, he can't help but sexualize them. Even when they were a few months old.
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@Mopac
Pretty much all of the African American community was in love with Trump, including the NAACP....until the moment Trump came down the escalator.
How did that magical escalator turn Trump a racist all of a sudden when he wasn't regarded as one for 70 years?
Cause racist don't mean what you think it means.
You keep using that word.
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@HistoryBuff
I didn't give you any media hysteria. i gave you quotes and descriptions of things he said and did. None of the events and quotes I gave you are interpretations. They are facts. you can really look at that list of racist things he has said and done and tell me none of them are racist?
Of course, they are your own biased interpretations. Labeling someone a racist means you are assigning motive and intent to someone when it could be clearly interpreted to mean something different.
Maybe a person with black skin really is just an asshole and not bad because he was born with black skin.
Maybe a person from Mexico is really a rapist and not bad because he was born in Mexico.
Maybe a person is a bitch and not bad because they were born with a vagina.
All up to interpretation of intent.
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@HistoryBuff
Yeah, I think there is a lot of reading into, interpreting, and removing from context that can be done to make Trump look racist, but I don't believe he actually is.
Donald Trump is the greatest shit talker to take office. He says things to hurt. You gotta realize, he is the WWE candidate, he can't just let things slide. He's gotta show them the proper way to talk shit. Women care about the kind of stuff he mocks them for. Asshole? Oh yeah, totally. A womanizer? Oh yeah, totally. If you call that misogyny, fine, but I don't think Donald Trump hates woman.
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@Mopac
Donald Trump is the greatest shit talker to take office. He says things to hurt. You gotta realize, he is the WWE candidate, he can't just let things slide.
That is the perfect example of your bias. You see him say and do racist things but you brush it off as he is a "shit talker" or a "womanizing man pig". You see what a piece of shit he is is, but you won't acknowledge it. That is a core part of the problem in modern american politics.
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@HistoryBuff
No, I don't see him say or do racist things.
I don't see how calling someone a womanizing man pig is a compliment.
The core problem with American politics is that the problems this country has aren't going to be solved with politics. The problems this country has are spiritual in nature. The reason why politics is this bad to begin with is because we live in a wicked time. Eventually something is going to snap, and then we will see exceptionally wicked times.
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@Mopac
No, I don't see him say or do racist things.
Not letting black people live in his buildings? that isn't racist? Telling american born people of color that they are from failed countries, that isn't racist? Pushing for the death penalty for innocent black teenagers. that isn't racist?
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@HistoryBuff
I don't think you are taking the care to isolate the many variables here that do not pinpoint race as being the reason for these actions and sayings. I think a lot of that is spin the sensationalist media pushes for political reasons.
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@Mopac
I don't think you are taking the care to isolate the many variables here that do not pinpoint race as being the reason for these actions and sayings.
So trump can do tons of racist things, (such as illegally refusing to rent to black people) but unless you can get a signed confession explaining why he did those racist things, then you will refuse to accept that he is racist. That is the most biased answer I can think of.
Honestly Dubya is better than Trump now,just these last 2 weeks
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@HistoryBuff
I really do care about what is true. I think that if you have a problem with the guy, it should be for something that is real, not a narrative that was invented to smear him. I don't believe Donald Trump is racist. There are plenty of legitimate problems you can have with the guy that maybe I would even agree with you on. I don't believe Donald Trump is racist.
I constantly worry we're going to be devastatingly taken advantage of by other countries who know we have a moron in charge and capitalize on the weakness.
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@Castin
Stop worrying about hypotheticals. It is bad for your liver.
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@Greyparrot
I do have a beleaguered liver as it is...
Too much Mike's Hard Lemonade and White Russians.
SHE SAID "WHITE RUSSIANS" SHE'S A RACIST TRAITOR. GET HER!
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@Castin
You're supposed to have grey hair before you are properly qualified to worry about hypotheticals.
Young people would never get married if this was not true.
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@Castin
Yep. The Chinese and Russians must be laughing their socks off at the moment.
Do you think that there is any chance of re-election. What would that say about the American people if that were to happen?
Though is the U.S. electoral system, less about the majority and more about those who are able to manipulate the system?
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@zedvictor4
With friends like the crony corporate media, who needs enemies?