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has more about me than I'd like to see in future. 
We r doing one for sure coming up about the whole HoF process

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oopses forgot the ping above
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@Vader
He was saying he wants you to have him less in the story.
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debate noms:

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i cnp wrong sayin
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really enjoyed Discipulus_Didicit's fresh take on the game- more strategy than luck

Awww <3
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I am waiting for answers to several queries, so no decision about the alleged vote coordination has been made. This vote count therefore does not factor in any such decision.

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Wylted - 7
Ramshutu - 10
Virtuoso - 9
Oro - 6
RM - 13
Supa - 6
Mike - 5
Speed - 2
Whiteflame - 1
Ragnar - 4
Semper - 3
Castin - 1
Bsh1 - 2
Tyrone - 6
Space - 2
Coal - 4
3RU7AL - 1

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HOF Upcoming - 2
Appointed Mods - 1
About DART - 1
Become Atheist - 1
Goodbye (RM) - 7
Vending Machine - 3
DART Wiki - 1
Call-out Thread - 1
Minimum Wage - 2
Celebrity Mafia - 1
The President - 1
Satisfying - 1
Question to Bsh - 1
HOF Nominations - 2
Goodbye (Club) - 1
Platform - 1
Internet Explorer - 1
Goodbye (PF4R) - 1
Running Poll - 1
OSBM Mafia - 1
DART Times - 1
AMA (YYW) - 1

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Firing Squad - 10
Jury Nullification - 4
Animal Experiment - 2
Rap Battle - 1
Israeli Military - 3
Fetuses - 2
Jesus Messiah - 1
Climate Change - 1
Plea Bargaining - 2
Death Penalty - 1
Gay Marriage - 1

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If you right click the orange number, it lets you link directly to a post: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2858/post_links/120281
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@RationalMadman
That's SICK thanks!!!!!!
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@Speedrace
I saw. I will go back and verify all votes at the end of the process.
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I'm not sure I agree with bsh's methods here. If he were really trying to get to the bottom of things he would've PM'd me by now. I can only assume he doesn't really care and is just appeasing the RM/Supa types until they shut up about it.
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@TheHammer
Or, maybe, it is you who should shut up about it. After all, it is you who broke the collusion rule and who spent over four, well really over six, months doing nothing for the website whatsoever until you turn up to troll the HoF pregame and Round 1.


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@TheHammer
I'm not at the frontrun of this, i only commented now bc it's getting suspicious. I even said idc
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Remind us again why you're voting for Tyrone?
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Attention

I am unable to distinguish between Space and Tyrone. While I grant that it is possible that they are different people, there is an enormous amount of undeniable overlap. Space admits to sharing an IP with Tyrone and admits it is possible that they have a device type match (like the one I found). They also have an established history of multi-accounting. While I will not be banning either (because I don't believe the evidence rises to the higher standard needed to justify a ban), I feel that the evidence is sufficient to take the following two steps. First, I will not be counting both Tyrone's and Space's proposed nomination--I will count just Space's as his vote was cast first. Second, I will not be counting both of their nominations to the Hall of Fame--I will count just Tyrone's nominations as he has the most support.

On the issue of vote coordination, I have received assurances from Thett that no explicit decision about who to nominate was made by the alleged conspirators. Thett did acknowledge, however, that they wanted to construct such a plan, but were unable to get their act together. Based on the evidence of which I am aware, it is plausible that Thett voted by himself and then was sheeped by the others. The close timing of their votes can be explained by Thett or someone else reaching out to the others and alerting them to the fact that the HOF process was taking place (without precisely requesting them to vote a certain way). So, there may not have been an explicit plan, but there certainly were cues given about how the others should vote. If this is what indeed occurred, it skirts along the edges of the rules, but I don't think it breaks them. The goal of the anti-coordination clause was to prevent explicit efforts to skew the HOF results. What they did was too cute by far, but I am not sure it is actionable. So, while I personally doubt the veracity of the denials of vote coordination, I will not be voiding their votes, unless new evidence or analysis comes to light.

An updated vote count will be posted soon to reflect these rulings.
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Users

Wylted - 6
Ramshutu - 10
Virtuoso - 9
Oro - 6
RM - 13
Supa - 6
Mike - 5
Speed - 2
Whiteflame - 1
Ragnar - 4
Semper - 3
Castin - 1
Bsh1 - 2
Tyrone - 5
Coal - 4
3RU7AL - 1

Threads

HOF Upcoming - 2
Appointed Mods - 1
About DART - 1
Become Atheist - 1
Goodbye (RM) - 7
Vending Machine - 3
DART Wiki - 1
Call-out Thread - 1
Minimum Wage - 2
Celebrity Mafia - 1
The President - 1
Satisfying - 1
Question to Bsh - 1
HOF Nominations - 2
Goodbye (Club) - 1
Platform - 1
Internet Explorer - 1
Goodbye (PF4R) - 1
Running Poll - 1
OSBM Mafia - 1
DART Times - 1
AMA (YYW) - 1

Debates

Firing Squad - 10
Jury Nullification - 4
Animal Experiment - 2
Rap Battle - 1
Israeli Military - 3
Fetuses - 2
Jesus Messiah - 1
Climate Change - 1
Plea Bargaining - 2
Death Penalty - 1
Gay Marriage - 1


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Time Check

Approximately 26.5 hours remain to submit your nominations.

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@bsh1
You have disappointed us all with your naivety.

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@bsh1
prevent explicit efforts to skew the HOF results

... Wylted and Tyrone are now through to R2, what part is confusing for you?
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@bsh1
How will you decide ties in the votes for a certain number to see who advances
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Remove my plea bargaining vote and put it on fetuses. I assume I get one change for each category
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@RationalMadman
Wylted deserves a R2 spot to be fair. He contributes a lot on this site
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@Vader
Your personal opinion on what is deserved or not are irrelevant to the corruption and bullshit 'too cute' excuse for allowing what happened. It wasn't cute, I didn't enjoy it. I win regardless, I still hate it. It's not about me, if you honestly don't feel sick about what happened here, and do not seriously worry for Bsh1's competence as a chief mod at this point, I don't know what to fucking say.

This is not skirting on the edge of anything, this is requiring people to give EVIDENCE of THEIR OWN COLLUSION in order to say they colluded, I have never ever seen something so utterly stupid in a long time, I am deadly serious.
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@RationalMadman
im only sick bc wylted thinks i don't think of him as a friend bc i didn't vote him
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everyone voted deserves to be on there, besides a couple (which i am not going to discuss). i honestly said i don't care at all about my spot, but a lot people do, and i said to check in.

im leaving opinion aside from this issue to be as fair minded as possible, my votes are unbiased belief

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I remained completely transparent with Mueller—I mean Bsh1— throughout the course of his investigation after which I was completely vindicated. Please direct all inquiries to my press conference: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2868/hall-to-fame-press-conference
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@Vader
Would you like to tell us what contributions, other than patreon, Wylted has made to the website that you believe deem him worthy of the nomination?
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I'm going to contribute my dick to RM's ass like his wierd uncle did, if he doesn't stop the shit talking. That is a rather large contribution if I say so myself
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MY TWO OTHER NOMINATIONS

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This people are bloody legends, though I dont like one of them, im not denying how much of a legend he is, its like As a red sox fan you hate A-Rod byt recongize hes pretty good