---MCU Heroes Mafia: DP1---

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@oromagi
 Press came back
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@oromagi
 Post #256
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Aight can someone give me a gist of what happened in the last 5 pages. I don’t have the time to read it with school until the weekend. I’ll soft claim - my character is connected with every Marvel Movie and a lot of the shows.
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Well this went poorly
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@warren42
I think it is more of disorganization, but we can discuss endgame
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sorry,  I saw "Drafter is still kicked though" #256
so I checked drafterman's prior state and that was 

"drafter is replacing Cog now" #252

so I read "still kicked" to mean "still kicked over to Cog Now"

but drafter interprets this as kicked off the game (which he had much improved) and Speed does not seem to correcting.

so.... is it both dead for now?

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8. oromagi                   (verifiable?)     .
1. GreyParrot              May Parker      MOTIVATOR or DOUBLEVOTER
3. Ragnar                    Clint Barton     .
12. Wylted                   Thor Odinson  GLADIATOR (silencer)

10. SupaDudz             ???                   .
4. ILikePie5                 ???                   .
5. WaterPhoenix         ???                   .
6. Mharman                 ???                   .
7. warren42                 (no ep. film)    ORACLE (special)     
(press to lynch testable role)
11. A-R-O-S-E             [not important]     
(press to lynch testable role)
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X. drafterman               ???                   .
(replaced CogentCognizer)
X. Cogent Cognizer      [core]
(replaced drafterman                       .         
(replaced PressF4Respect)
SCUM

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Ok whichever one it is I wasn't inactive I went to school, do votes carry over if a player gets replaced?
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Now that I'm here I'll post reads:

Greyparrot-Town: Pretty much confirmed as motivator even if the claim was a bit weird
Press-Null: Hasn't posted I have nothing to work with
Ragnar-Lean scum: Hasn't been posting much but reads, might be newbie but you can never be too careful
Pie-Lean town: Hasn't done anything scummy 
Mharman-Lean scum: Has been pretty inactive and hasn't done anything useful
Warren-Town: Has been pretty active and done pro-town things
Oromagi-Lean Town: Has been pretty active and has done mostly pro-town things
Supa-Lean town: Seems like town and has been fairly active
A-R-O-S-E- Town: Has been very active, way too active to be mafia
Wylted- Lean Town: Has done mostly pro-town things but hasn't been that active

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@WaterPhoenix
i disagree with ragnar. the most you can do with ragnar is to null him which i am doing rn. his play is weird and leans scum in normal scenarios, but with your explanation, i would find him as a null, but we could pressure dp2
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@Vader
Ya, a soft claim would be nice.
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With Cog mod killed, I no longer know whom to vote for. Who is the least active remaining?

As stated earlier, I’m going to be a bit busy today with that birthday celebration.
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@WaterPhoenix
A soft claim DP1 is not necessary. I keep with the same philosophy all my games. They will do nothing but build confusion and are not needed.
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vtl pressf

we need a lynch on DP1 to limit scum pool...he seems like a viable target
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@Vader
I dunno about press he hasn't done anything to be labeled scum or anything at all for that matter. I say we go with someone who seems like scum.
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@WaterPhoenix
inactives ruin town play and make town more crappy. unless we indefinitely know that this person scum slipped/strong scum lead, then we should lynch. we only have 12hrs or so left. lynch now more than later
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I count 3 posts from Press
5 from Mharman
13 from Pie
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greyparrot, mharman, and PressF are least active
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@Vader
Ah fine, but next dp we're pressuring mhar or ragnar

VTL Press
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@WaterPhoenix
Ok. My guess is to go with Mhar, but idrk. I give Ragnar some "noob liabilitiy"
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@Vader
Really hate how hard supa is hedging on Ragnar
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hedging? That’s a new one 
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@warren42
i don’t see it on the mafia guide. What does it exactly mean
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@Vader
It comes from the phrase "hedging your bets." You're sitting on the fence with him. You're wishy-washy. Scum use it to keep a lynch option open while not actively pushing them. Today you lynch someone else. Tomorrow you say "damn I knew I should've lynched Ragnar" and start pushing him. You drop the towny vibes you're getting and voila, another mislynch.
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@oromagi
 Basically unmodkilled Press
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@warren42
ahhhh thanks

i have strong reads, but it so hard to read Ragnar bc of his noobiness. It is hard to decipher what his motives are and such. I have my reads there and they are strong. I have a same thinking as Wylted. Lower the town pool so that the scum pool increased. PressF is lurking. It’s a scum tell

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I've said this in multiple games and guess people disagree which is fine but I don't care about losing to inactive scum. If they don't play they didn't win. It's whatever. Press and Cog are both bad votes.

This feels gross to use but neither of them are mafia because of how speed handled the situation. Press DEFINITELY isn't, because he wouldn't be subbing press or drafter (I don't remember which and am too lazy to look it up) into the other slot if the former was scum, else they know the scum team. I will be treating anyone still on press at end of day as outted scum and it's a bad look that you didn't come to the same conclusion.
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READS

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8. oromagi                   (verifiable?)     .
1. GreyParrot              May Parker      MOTIVATOR or DOUBLEVOTER
3. Ragnar                    Clint Barton     .
12. Wylted                   Thor Odinson  GLADIATOR (silencer)
10. SupaDudz             ???                   .
4. ILikePie5                 ???                   .
5. WaterPhoenix         ???                   .
6. Mharman                 ???                   .
7. warren42                 (no ep. film)    ORACLE (special)     
(press to lynch testable role)
11. A-R-O-S-E             [not important]     
(press to lynch testable role)
9. PressF4Respect  [core]

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?. drafterman               ???                   .
SCUM

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time is short & I think we want a lynch. uncertainties are multiplying late.

I'm jumping on Press with ambivalence

UNVOTE
VTL PressF
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@warren42
now u say it
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@oromagi
You're a fool then. How has nobody realized that PressF is literally an innocent child at this point