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I think Bush deserved to win, a lot people don't.What do ya'll think. If you have learned about it like me or If you remember it, I would like to know

Also, I liked Bush the son, A Lot of people don't now. Why?
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This is the obvious incident that comes to mind

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Whats the matter with it
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Starting a war, destabilizing the region, costing money and lives all for non-existent WMDs?
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Not our finest hour.
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It did stabilize a region, the only reason it wouldn't because of Iran
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Really? How did the Iraq invasion stabilize a region?
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It made iraq an ally
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What does being an ally have to do with the impact of the invasion on the stability of Iraq?
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So we can move on to toher areas of the middle east
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Oh I get what you're talking about now. What I meant by destabilizing the region was the destabilization of Iraq and the middle east, not the US. It's important to keep in mind that war does not only impact one side, but both.

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Elections are nothing more than pageants. George W. Bush was selected to be the president. It's not about "deserving" to win. His family comes from old banking money, which if one does one's research, funded the Nazi campaign. The atrocities the Bush family is responsible for, particularly the 20th century and early 21st, is quite substantial.
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Pageant: a public entertainment consisting of a procession of people in elaborate, colorful costumes, or an outdoor performance of a historical scene.

Funny way of saying democracy.

George W. Bush was selected to be the president. It's not about "deserving" to win.
Yeah selected by the people who voted for him and the electoral votes.
His family comes from old banking money, which if one does one's research, funded the Nazi campaign
Non-sequitur to him winning by votes.
The atrocities the Bush family is responsible for, particularly the 20th century and early 21st, is quite substantial.
Not an argument against him winning just after the fact he won.

Just so we are clear:

You have a funny way of saying democracy.
Bush won by votes.
What he does that isn't vote tampering like banking and atrocities doesn't make how he won any less fair. 
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@Athias

Pageant: a public entertainment consisting of a procession of people in elaborate, colorful costumes, or an outdoor performance of a historical scene.

Funny way of saying democracy.
Well metaphors can be funny. Unfortunately, this metaphor is quite accurate.


Yeah selected by the people who voted for him and the electoral votes.
And the international banking families who sponsor him. That's been true for every president since McKinley.

Non-sequitur to him winning by votes.
Not really. Exposure is significant to vote-getting; banking sponsorship is important for exposure. It's quite simple.

Not an argument against him winning just after the fact he won.
I'm not arguing against his "winning." He was selected, as most if not all presidents have been, are, and will be.

What he does that isn't vote tampering like banking and atrocities doesn't make how he won any less fair. 
Fairness? There's no fairness in democracy because it is by virtue an immoral system. It is a means to coerce minorities and dissenters into submitting their property, labor, and other resources.






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How so?
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because you are