You call me a joke in defence of me saying you have an agenda... Nice defence?
Consciousness has always existed, this is the most basic concept of God how have you not considered it already?
If you say that consciousness has always existed, you concede that if something exists it in no way at all necessitates a creator. This then extends to the very reason you say God is in any way necessary and real; it isn't, we don't need a creator under your logical framework.
Consciousness comes before matter, meaning awareness has always been, it's ETERNAL
If this is true, it in no way at all explains what came before consciousness or where matter came from. You say your God doesn't 'poof' things into existence ever, so then how did matter originate and why can't matter, like God and consciousness under your logical framework, itself have always existed?
Energy is present with conscious activity, which is why it exists at all.
Energy is present with a plethora of unconscious, inanimate activity too, like wind eroding rocks, the production of electricity and many other things. Energy transfer in the brain and body of conscious beings is an extremely tiny percentage of the overall energy transfer on Earth as we know it, let alone the rest of reality.
You say that the reason why energy exists is that it's present with conscious activity but that in no way at all is a reason for it to exist, just an interaction and codependency it has while existing.
The complete lapse in your hypothesis to conclusion here is that you forgot that your God can't 'poof' things into existence ever, correct? So where did energy come from?
In other words awareness (consciousness) and energy co-exist.
The discussion being had is whether a God that never creates things, but only alters processes can exist in any shape or form that doesn't logically contradict the reality in which you're saying the God operates and controls things. We are not discussing whether consciousness and energy co-exist; everyone knows that they do.
Awareness cannot be destroyed and so neither can energy be.
Awareness can always be destroyed, right now you're paying attention to the screen in front of you, are you aware of that very quiet background noise? How about the feeling of your clothes on your skin? I doubt you were aware of those things, it would be a waste of your brain's energy to be aware of them while focusing on the screen, for starters. What is a person in a coma then? Awareness can be destroyed and regularly is, especially before you were born and after you die even if you're reborn.
Energy is transferred only as far as we know it and in our area of reality. For all we know in other realities energy is regularly created and destroyed, not just transferred. In no way at all is this some kind of absolute rule or way of understanding the God that happened to decide that energy should have a set amount. Also us, as humans, have never ever been able to actually prove this theory true it's simply that as far as our means of producing electricity, compounds etc all require energy transfer and not any destruction of it or creation of it.
Poofing things into existence?? now you're going into the absurd.
If poofing things into existence is absurd, why is it not absurd to think that there is a god and that things didn't just exist and transfer from the beginning of time with no organiser or creator? You speak of absurdity readily when discussing other versions of God and religious outlooks but when discussing your own, you forget the absurdity.
If you pay attention to quantum mechanics you would know that energy does create form, it's this manipulation of energy that is the processes of the Creator
If you pay attention to quantum mechanics you'd know that there is antimatter that interacts continually with particles to create and destroy what is and is not at any given moment in time. You'd also know that there in no shape or form is a creator or organiser necessitated for the very seemingly random system to work.
Consciousness itself in the God state has no form, It's awareness permeates all of creation.
You just said it has no form, then you said it permeates all of creation, which would require it to have form that does so and operates via that mechanism.
If you want to know how energy creates form I can send you a link.
I want to know how a God that never poofs anything into existence based on you calling it absurd (and it seems, never destroys anything either) is in any way itself able to be poofed into existence along with consciousness and energy.
However I don't really prefer discussing anything with you because you act like a punk, you need to grow up a bit young man.
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