I personally see consciousness in levels,
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On a few occasions when going to sleep a spiraling left{?} or right{?} and a seemingly spiraling vortex inward or spiarlingvortex outward. On just one occasion this was very intense and I became fearful { high anxiety } of falling into the spiralling vortex .
It wasnt until the I came to the conclusion that my anxiety was unfounded, as I was merely intensely aware of the fine line between consciousness and being sleep. It was seeing { being aware } of the moment of a fine line between consciousness awareness and unconsicous sleep and I didnt realize that at the time is all that was happening so I was scared.
Refering back to post #1
link .."Information is classically defined as reduction of uncertainty."....
...ergo we are left with finding an order or using an orderly process to reduce uncertainty...............
I was uncertain of what was happening with that intense spiraling moment. Come to think of it I think I actually pulled back away from being aware of the spiral it a few times hoping it would go away. I dont think it ever went away until I actually feel asleep ergo the autonomous nervous system rules again.
A quasi-smilar thing happen to me once while sitting at my desk. I forget the actual details but I wanted to take a breath and couldnt recall what mechanisms I should activate to that. I couldnt recall and after maybe 20 or 30 seconds high anxiety appears and then suddenly autonomous system kicked in and Wow!, what a relief that was.
..."Information is not enough, however, if it is not integrated.".. Again from that initial LINK above.
Fuller address this in his book Synergetics 2, wherein he states the differrence between understanding and comprehension by stating that comprehension begins wit no less than 6 interrelationships { chords } of the minimal structure of Universe, the tetra{4}hedrorn.
With the simplest set of two ME { O } and You { O } we have graviational line-of-relationship aka mass-atraction i.e. moving INwards towards each other O----><-----O.
That is ok representation but I think there has to exist two geodesic relationships as mass-attraction and I see that is two geodesic sine-waves acting as a feedback system ergo (O)(O) i.e. ( )( )( )( )( ) is two sine-waves over what ever distance. Those circles are not close because I'm using text characters and that is best I have on keyboard to express my idea.
With understanding we see one, two or three, four, five and six bits of information or lines of relationhship but we have not yet considered them as an integrated whole set as enclosure of space via minimal structre of Universe, the seperates all of the macro-infinite outside and irrelevant information from all of the mirco-infinite and irrelevant inside.
Ex in the above we have ME { O } and You { O } one of two lines of relationship { geodesic or whatever } and the background against which we consider those four or five items of consideration.
So that is five or six items to consider in comprehending the most simplistic set of consciousness, awareness, twoness, otherness.
Yes it is only 5 if we consider only one line-of-relationship so we can throw in a sixth as metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts as the 6th line-of-relationship in order to complete the whole tetrahedron of comprehensive enclosure of a whole 3D concept as ergo tetrahedral.
As for you spiral dynamics yes I considered that years ago along with 100s of other psychological outlines for consciousness over the last 25 or 30 years. Ive gone more twowards primary sets;
The overal most cosmically wholistic set, that all inclusive erog the most primary fundamental set for consciousness and all occupied space and the most irrelevant macro-infinite non-occupied space is also considered and Ive been very clear with Cosmic Trinity and other formatted hierachies of expressing those concepts like the beginning any good educational book that has a table-of-contents.