The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah

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Geological studies have shown that the level of the Dead Sea was at a low point during the Early Bronze Age (Neev and Emery 1995: 62) and thus the shallow basin, or "plain" south of the Dead Sea, would have been dry land and probably cultivated. The location of the Early Bronze Age sites along the eastern edge of the plain fits the Biblical description of the cities as being of the plain. "Cities of the Plain" is in the construct state in the Hebrew, which means that the word "cities" has a close association with the word "plain." The cities were not in the plain, or on the plain. If that were the case, a different construction would have been used. Rather, the cities were "of" the plain—they had a close association, or connection, with the plain. They were doubtless dependent upon the plain for their livelihood.


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You've got the tshirt for this already.
Tell me how Geological studies have anything to do with archaeological studies.
Quoting religious sites is pointless in a scientific discussion.
These claims were destroyed weeks ago.
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You'll be happy to know sociologist studies have determined that none of the fetuses destroyed were homotransexuals and that the eruption of Krakatoa was the lightshow that everyone watched the day after.
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God wrote the report in invisible clouds a thousand feet underground, go and look.
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Are you telling god what he can and can't do.
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"Truly, O God of Israel, our Savior, you work in mysterious ways."


Isaiah 45:15

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What is the god of Israel saving you from? The god of Israel?
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A theory I quite like is that Sodom and Gomorah are cities that were already ruins when the Hebrews discovered them and over time a legendary explanation of them developed - ie that they were destroyed by god because the people who lived there were wicked.  It woudn't take long for people to forget it was a just a story or theory and consider it to be the truth.   The towns identified in the article (Bab edh-Dhra and Numeira) were destroyed before 2000 BCE, ie 5-600 years before the Hebrews occupied the area.

Similarly, cities are recorded in the bible as being destroyed by Joshua's invasion of Canaan but their ruins have been dated to much a much earlier time.

 
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I don't know what Biblical timeline your talking about, but the current one for a lot of people is wrong by 300 years, Dating methods for such a long ago event isn't going to be pin point accuracy
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Scientific dating methods have been proved accurate by many, many, many cross referenced dating, only willfully ignorant godists question them even though they use similar science to keep their children alive. Proof, if any more was needed, that godists are hypocrites.
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So what do you think, 6,000yrs for the age of the universe, solar system, earth, life on this planet?
Are humans as old as dinosaurs?
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What dating methods were used for Sodom And Gomorrah, please tell me, I am an old earth creationist

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It's not my area of expertise.  Most sources I've checked put the destruction of the towns 2000-2300 bce and the Hebrew occuption of Israel (or Joshua's invasion) around 1250 BCE.  I'm not qualified to comment further.
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Answer my question and I'll consider yours.
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Poor child. Run away again, your presence was never needed and your LIES still are not.
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What dating methods were used for Sodom And Gomorrah, please tell me, I am an old earth creationist

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Since they have never been shown to exist, you get to make up any age you like and it will fit in perfectly with the shit that was made up for the bible.
Sodom was destroyed in 1867 and Gomorrah was destroyed exactly 33 lights years later.
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Wow, big claim evidence
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Your god wrote it in invisible clouds a thousand feet below the earth surface. Go and look
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No, I want evidence