Britain seizes Iranian ship

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For weeks the left has been calling America an aggressor. Now, they will with have to accept that Iran is the aggressor or make the claim that Britain is also an aggressor. If they choose the former, they admit that they were wrong and Trump was right. If they choose the latter, they will have sided Iran over The Western World.

The Ball is in your court, leftists.
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What will you choose?
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If I hit Bobby over the head with a spatula and Bobby hits Sam over the head with a spatula, it means both bobby and I are assholes.

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I doubt the powers that be in Iran would give two $#%*s about MSNBC or my personal problems.
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.....“We acted because we had reasonable grounds to believe that this vessel was taking actions in breach of established E.U. sanctions against Syria,” Fabian Picardo, the chief minister of Gibraltar, told the territory’s parliament on Frida"...

...Iran has threatened to retaliate against British shipping assets in the gulf in response to the detention of the Grace 1 supertanker."...


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IF IRan doesn't get their way, I;m happy>Good Job Britain!

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Is the act of aggression justified or not?  Is this sort of shipping dispute to Syria a new event, or something the news cycle which you are paying attention just tuned into?
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The sanctions against Iraq are real.

Iraq has 2 choices, go to war, or make a new treaty with the western powers agreeing to stop exporting Sharia Law via terrorism, along with enriching uranium for the same purpose.
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You don't even know what country is being discussed. Well done you
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For weeks the left has been calling America an aggressor. Now, they will with have to accept that Iran is the aggressor or make the claim that Britain is also an aggressor. If they choose the former, they admit that they were wrong and Trump was right. If they choose the latter, they will have sided Iran over The Western World.

The Ball is in your court, leftists.
Wait a minute, remind me who broke the deal first?
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I'm surprised no one has taken seriously all of the damage caused by previous sitting presidents forming these agreements without the approval of representation.  Its as if people are so fixated on Donald Trump in this moment they don't stop to look around at the politics behind our terrible foreign relations, in this case with Iran.  The executive giveth, and the executive taketh away.

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It was never Trump's deal to begin with. It was Obama's deal. If Iran wanted a stronger deal, they could have petitioned the American Congress for one. Iran dropped the ball.
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It was never Trump's deal to begin with. It was Obama's deal. If Iran wanted a stronger deal, they could have petitioned the American Congress for one. Iran dropped the ball.
So you're saying Trump broke the deal, but somehow inexplicably expects Iran to stick to it?

You're making no sense.
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I'm saying Iran never wanted a lasting deal to begin with because they did not demand the American Congress to create a treaty. It was all for show.

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“The JCPOA, as an experience, proved the futility of negotiations with the Americans, their unfaithfulness, and the necessity of distrust in the Americans’ promises once more and indicated that for the country to progress and the people to enjoy better living conditions, heed should be directed to domestic capacities not to the enemies who keep creating impediments for Iran both regionally and internationally.” 

“Today, even the diplomats and individuals who participated in the [nuclear] negotiations reiterate the fact that the U.S. breaks its promises, and while speaking softly and sweetly [to Iran], is busy obstructing and damaging Iran’s economic relations with other countries.” 

-Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khamenei...5 Months before Trump was elected.

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So you're saying Trump broke the deal, but somehow inexplicably expects Iran to stick to it?

You're making no sense.
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Read the previous post. Iranian leader considered the deal broken before Trump was elected.

That's the kind of things that will make no sense to a deranged person.
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Read the previous post. Iranian leader considered the deal broken before Trump was elected.
But they didn't break the deal until nearly a year after Trump canceled it.
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Who cares. Iran considered the agreement broken by America before Trump was elected.

The very words of the supreme leader of Iran.

You can't break something considered broken.

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Who cares. Iran considered the agreement broken by America before Trump was elected.
You can make an agreement with someone and say "I don't really trust that guy" without being in MATERIAL BREACH.

Trump broke the deal first.

You can't get mad about Iran "violating" the deal when the deal has already been broken by Trump.
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I'm not mad or surprised when the supreme leader of Iran considered the deal broken before TDS turned the American media into a propaganda tool for Iran.

Most people who are not deranged could see it coming. Iran was never going to stay within the JPCOA if its terrorism wasn't being funded adequately to allow Iran to export Sharia Law into the Middle East. Why do you think the Supreme Leader considered the agreement broken?

What's the point of using nuclear blackmail if Iran can't get the funds it needs for terrorism?
The Supreme leader of Iran said this 5 months before Trump. You just don't give a crap cause it does not fit in with the derangement narrative.

JCPOA was never about nukes. It was about Iran securing unfettered resources to export terrorism funded by the EU capitalists ready to purchase cheap Iranian oil. America does not need Middle Eastern oil, so it has no interest in helping to fund Sharia terrorism in exchange for oil like the EU and China does.

Why do you think Iran is going batshit over an oil tanker? 
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It doesn't matter what anybody said about the deal (supreme of not).

Iran was not in material breach of the deal.

There is no international law that says Iran can't develop whatever weapons it wants.

What you are advocating is a de facto world government.
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What's the point of using nuclear blackmail if Iran can't get the funds it needs for terrorism?
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If they choose the former, they admit that they were wrong and Trump was right. If they choose the latter, they will have sided Iran over The Western World.
Both the UK and the US are wrong.
So I am supposed to agree with the state even if they are wrong? Are you an authoritarian?
UK and the US are wrong in this situation doesn't mean I side with Iran generally. 
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What's the point of using nuclear blackmail if Iran can't get the funds it needs for terrorism?
wHAT in gods name are you blathering about?

TERRORISM IS CHEAP AF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You sound like you speak from personal experience. Tell us what it was like to launch your 1st rocket at those filthy zionists.
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You sound like you speak from personal experience. Tell us what it was like to launch your 1st rocket at those filthy zionists.
Terrorism is basically free.  That's the whole point of it.
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“The golden days are gone and will never return,” said a fighter with an Iranian-backed militia in Syria who recently lost a third of his salary and other benefits. “Iran doesn’t have enough money to give us.”
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Shiite fighters directed by Iran helped battle the Islamic State after the militant group overran parts of Iraq five years ago.
Militia Fighter =/= Terrorist.
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