More Guns Thread

More { weapons } = more sanity?

More { weapons } = more security?

More { weapons } = more peace?

More  { weapons } = less crazy people to abuse them?

More  { weapons } = intellectually best path forward for humanity?

More { weapons } = humanities best short term solutions to violence?

The closest example I can think of is Sweden.

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Alec: but so does arming civilians and teachers for defense.

Mustardness:

More guns { wepaons } on Earth is dumb.  Humans are dumb and barbaric.  How does a dumb and barbaric humanity survive the most years forward on Earth. Not by building and dispersing guns { weapons } to more and more humans.

Why do you think USSR and USA got rid of so many hydrogen bombs? Because is was M.A.D.  Maybe you still dont grasp what M.A.D means some 30 years later.  Mutually Assured Destruction of humanity on Earth

an armed populace would be extremely hard to control

I absolutely agree. Although i have progressive type views, i believe some things just need to be left alone for good reason. It's okay to be progressive in my opinion, bc humans evolve... but, i always say it's a mix bw the two. Be progressive but in a conservative way. Think through what you are doing, and test it. I feel we have done that with gun laws and i don't see any gun law that would stop mass shootings in particular. That is a low percentage of gun deaths however. The real question is what it would do where the most gun death happens. I really don't know in that case. Would it help reduce gang crime, would gang crime stay the same, or will it get worse? Bc ultimately, gangs aren't going to stop being gangs. As long as we have a black market... they're in business. So i don't know up to that level. I think they would be scared to go after the random citizen... but what will it do to the in-fighting? I don't think it would change personally... which is why i believe it would be safer. 

would gang crime stay the same, or will it get worse? 

D-Pirate....So long as people are imperfect accidents will happen just as they currently do.

"Cops would shoot the wrong person"

balance/equality it's a stalemate

Yes, indeed. But i don't think the gang problems will be fixed until we fix ourselves. We need to realize freedom again. The two main contributions to these gangs are sex and drugs. I don't see why prostitution is illegal, i don't see why drugs are illegal. If we want to focus on evil, we can't muddy the waters by putting resources into punishing people that just want to live... have some sex and do some drugs. They're just being human and we are punishing them for that. I personally think we need to rewrite a lot of our laws. Our priorities are very off imho. Just imagine... in such a world where we allow people freedom, people would likely allow full invasion of privacy. Why not? If i'm not going to get punished for just doing things that doesn't hurt anyone... then there could be cameras everywhere. Then we can focus on the people that really have something to hide... murders, rapists, people harming us. I don't know... but i think we're headed that way, but only if we stop calling things evil and wrong that just aren't. I know i digressed, but ultimately, i think if we don't figure that out... gangs will war, kids will kill, insanity will create chaos. Being armed against that is the first step. It also would show the majority are good and we don't need daddy to tell us what's right or wrong. Idk, it's just a dream lol. 

Though I would advocate for no cost training and practice.  Tax payers pay for law enforcement training which should also be open to anyone else interested in relation to the topic.

That's a great idea. Yeah... i wouldn't want country wide carry without some kind of training and practice for those that want to carry. I'd go as far as making it tough and you can't carry until you pass the course. I think that would greatly minimize a lot of the potential harms. 

Another school shooting in Colorado

Consider when one of these nut jobs kills some people, family members whatever and then kills themselves, that just makes no sense at all.

Being a teen with my own demons it makes sense to me. I was never on the level of truly ending my life or others... but i had that anger. It really has little to do with everything else although everything else does effect it. It's just an internal battle... and a lot of F* this world mentality. That is the route cause. That internal voice that just wants to see the world burn. Some deal with it and defeat it like i did, some turn it on themselves, and some turn it on others. People like this will continue to exist until we figure out why they want the world to burn. At that age i can tell you, it's usually feelings of not belonging, girl problems (or boy problems), depression and anxiety, isolated thoughts, ignorance, fear that you'll always be like this, fear that you're cursed, fear that this reality is a punishment, etc.

If you look back you can see the trend that has lead us to this point imo, lack of respect and morality has snowballed into what we are experiencing now.  

I really don't know what will fix this other than fixing ourselves and rethinking our priorities.

Getting fixed is a phrase also used for neutering an animal.

Getting a fix on a location aka triangulating.

Satisfying a fix { fixation } is also used for acquiring the drug their addicted to.

Producing more guns and making  them more easily ccessable to all people is M.A.Destruction or N.U.Ts

Mass murder by sick-n-the-head people is harder to do with kitchen utensil.  So they will start looking for farmers phosphate ---Timothery McVeigh and Terry Nichiols ---- if they have the intellectual abilities and then they can take out even more people than they could with an assault weapon.

The homegrown militia-men have not gone away, they have evovled into the racist alt-right. Duhh, ..'nice people on both sides'.... states Con-Artist-Trump

Producing more guns and making  them more easily ccessable to all people is M.A.Destruction or N.U.Ts

And letting people be sitting ducks is sane? 

diy lowers.

Yeah... it will eventually be easy to make. We're basically there. 

And letting people be sitting ducks is sane? 

1} in most cases humans already are sitting ducks ergo give every man woman and child who can aim and pull a trigger a gun. Yeah that sounds real smart, except to a duck.

I'm sorry... for someone that makes out to be intellectual, this reply is idiotic. Who in their right mind is saying give everyone a gun. I want people with protector hearts to carry. People that would face death bc they want nothing more but to protect people. I want those guys / girls to have a gun bc i know they will be that protector when shit goes down. Why are you so scared of guns? I almost feel it's bc people are bullies in real life and they are scared that they can't be mean to people anymore bc they'll be afraid of them if they had a gun. I say... Good! Everyone should fear a fellow man if they intend to do them harm. 

2} 2nd if guns { weapons } --ex hyrdogen bombs--    no longer existed on Earth then access to them is going to be more difficult. Agreed? Well that aught to make a huge differrence in of itself.

You're living in a fantasy. We will never, or anytime in the near future, get rid of all weapons on earth. In a short time, people will be able to make whatever weapon they want... we are evolving. You are talking about a fake scenario where i need to go find an infinity stone and ask thanos to snap his fingers and change reality... that's how ridiculous your position is. And all along the way... Innocent people are dying bc of people like "you" with a pipe dream. 

I'm sorry... for someone that makes out to be intellectual, this reply is idiotic.

Who in their right mind is saying give everyone a gun.

I want people with protector hearts to carry. People that would face death bc they want nothing more but to protect people. I want those guys / girls to have a gun bc i know they will be that protector when shit goes down.

Why are you so scared of guns?

I almost feel it's bc people are bullies in real life and they are scared that they can't be mean to people anymore bc they'll be afraid of them if they had a gun. I say... Good! Everyone should fear a fellow man if they intend to do them harm.

You're living in a fantasy. We will never, or anytime in the near future, get rid of all weapons on earth.

In a short time, people will be able to make whatever weapon they want... we are evolving.

You are talking about a fake scenario where i need to go find an infinity stone and ask thanos to snap his fingers and change reality... that's how ridiculous your position is. And all along the way... Innocent people are dying bc of people like "you" with a pipe dream. 

Ive heard many peopl around these parts infer/imply that any who want to carry a gun

I thought those people were aka the police

I fear the idea of every person that has ability to aim and pull a trigger,

There is probably movies out there with this type of modern society armed to tooth.

You may say I'm dreamer,