Star Trek chats: transporters and the new you.

It is hard to say. I only have  sample size of one and I cannot observe it only ecperience the part if it I am currently engaged in. A subjective individual experience is what it seems like.

My current view is that the self is virtual (as I have tried andfailed to descrbe it!). 

I don't say I won't ever change my mind about that, but that is what the best guess has seemed to me for a while now.

You did your best to say that self is a possibly nonreal thing which you do not understand well. 

Am I misunderstanding any of the salient points?

I would alter

"You did your best to say that self is a possibly nonreal thing which you do not understand well." to

"You did your best to say that self is possibly a nonreal thing which you do not understand well."

By 'Possibly' I meant 'Seems most likely to me, but I only learned about brains and philosophy off the internet so wtf do I know".

Anyway, given that you are not a philosopher with his professional reputation to lose, do you think the self is real?  You are a great one for fence-sitting. but it's ok to wrong, you know.  It's not as if anybody cares what we say or think....! 

 

Any guess I make would be just that a guess. There is no evidence for or against the idea of self I cannot maintain any belief under those circumstances. I am however prepared to accept self as a conversational convention since it allows is to differentiate between my subjective personal experience and yours whether they are actual or not.

Like I said, you are a natural fence-sitter!  Not meant as a criticism.

I like to have a belief and subject it to destructive testing!  Also ig you believe something you can build on it.  If it hangs together prigress has been made and if it falls apart (which is the usual case) at least something can be ruled out!   You seem wany certainly too much.

my guess is that neither of us seperately have a good conception of 'self'.   Presumably collaboration would work better that having a binary 'for or againsts' mentality at the outset.  But how often do you see forums use constructively? It never happens, unfortunately.

How do we subject something to destructive testing if we have no good conception of what exactly the thing in question is? How would the universe be perceptible different to us whether or not we each possess an actual self rather than the persistent illusion of self?

Can this thread be used for all things Star Trek, or only the transporters? If the latter, I'll create a new "All things Star Trek" thread then. Might want to anyways given the last comment before mine on this one was 148 days ago lol.

Screw it, I'll create an even broader thread for all sci-fi, space exploring shows.