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@iamanabanana
What is your justification for why Ivan IV is the Executor based on your PM
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@Lunatic
Why do you think Cerulean claimed to visit Supa as the JK yesterday?
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@iamanabanana
If Lunatic is scum, who is his partner and why?
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@iamanabanana
Well I am town. So lunatic must be scum…. I have complied with everything town has asked from me and was honest about my role from the beginning. I hope you can trust me.
that’s the thing, simply “complying” doesn’t make you town. You’ve had no original thoughts this entire game. 0 passion, just raw dead parroting of other people on mislynches. Yeah I was on mislynches too but I had original reasoning for them and i can justify every single one. You… literally just echoed everyone else. I remember town banana having independent thoughts of her own….
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@ILikePie5
Why do you think Cerulean claimed to visit Supa as the JK yesterday?
Idk. If she was town though my first thought is why would mafia target Vader over her? That’s the main reason I’m suspicious of her, the fact that she’s alive. Mafias only threat is a town jailkeeper and they don’t kill her? She should be dead. If she’s town it’s because she’s a mislynch target and if she’s not lying then scum would have to have a strongman. But since no one’s claimed a fruit two nights in a row we at least know the roleblocker aspect of her role is legit. But scum risking what should be an easy game on potentially getting jailkept makes no sense to me.
He* ceru is a he lol
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@Lunatic
What is there to have independent thoughts about? we’ve been lynching off of your results this whole time. I thought you were town, and was going based on that.
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@ILikePie5
If Lunatic is scum, who is his partner and why?
I am thinking you actually. You guys have been basically controlling the game from the beginning and leading mislynch after mislynch.
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@iamanabanana
I am thinking you actually. You guys have been basically controlling the game from the beginning and leading mislynch after mislynch.
Okay, then why is Cerulean town?
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@ILikePie5
Can you all write your justifications once again here after rereading your PMs
I'm good with continuing to hash this out, seems kind of silly to just let the game go to waste because we're at LYLO.
I'll summarize from scratch:
I'm known for escaping exile, returning to Russia each time. When the USSR was created, I became an important person in the mix, opposed Stalin's rise, and was once again exiled. This time, I died in exile. It's not said directly, but I take from my persistence that the Survivor is a given. The Hider role may have just been added to improve my odds, since it doesn't seem that Trotsky hid even after his final exile.
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@ILikePie5
What is your justification for why Ivan IV is the Executor based on your PM
Anyway, it's late. I'll rejoin the discussion in the morning.
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@ILikePie5
Okay, then why is Cerulean town?
He might not be. But wasn’t most of the entire basis for scumreading him based on there being three protection roles? We now there was only 2. Also why would they claim protect the night kill target and not just lie about protecting someone else? Also if he’s a roleblocker he wasted two role locks on a useless role and everyone town read Vader. I don’t see it.
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@iamanabanana
Can you summarize from scratch like WF did please
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@iamanabanana
What is there to have independent thoughts about? we’ve been lynching off of your results this whole time. I thought you were town, and was going based on that.
Because my results don’t guarantee scum is all three of them. You should assume at least one of the people on the results were town instead of blindly lynching all of them.
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@ILikePie5
I am Ivan the terrible the first Russian tsar who greatly expanded russias territory. In a fit of rage Ivan killed his son and it was made into a famous painting, which is why I am the 1x executioner.
I’m going to bed.
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@Cerulean
Interested in what your scum team looks like.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@Cerulean
@iamanabanana
I’m ready to vote fyi. I think I found a scumtell from someone. Gonna keep it to myself for now
Ready to vote whenever. Down to let ceru speak but it’s him or banana for me at this moment.
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@whiteflame
R u ready to vote ?
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@ILikePie5
Yep, just running around this morning for work.
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@Cerulean
I’ll wait for you out of respect
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@Cerulean
@iamanabanana
I'm good to make a decision at this point, but since my position is pretty much secure regardless, I'm just going to let someone convince me of how to vote. Since Pie's suggested he has a good scum tell to use, he's my pick to sheep atm should he have a good case, but I'm open to suggestion.
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@whiteflame
I think there’s a 0 sum chance scum isn’t banana/ ceru.
i think there’s logic is pretty airtight there, pie has been behaviorally town, and the only reason banana has survived this long is because our teammates this game have practically been committing suicide left and right lying about there roles in a game where towns goal is to hunt liars. My results aside even I had a decent case in both ADOL and that2 completely exclusive of the dreamer result that only had to do with them randomly lying about their role. But yeah I’m down to wait on ceru as well no reason to rush anything here but to me it seems there is a low chance of pie being scum, if I’m wrong I’ll praise him in the endgame, he fooled me well.
I’ll give Ceru until 5:30pm CST and then I will vote
vtl lunatic
We get pie next and it should be a win.
...Hm, okay, well, there's the cross.
Sorry for the delay, thank you for waiting. (Mostly.)
For starters, I think I'll take the truth of WF's claim for granted. The balance of the game feels like it would be a bit off with exactly 9 Town and 2 Mafia, so a 3P makes sense.
If we take that as true, it splits the rest into two pairs- Me and Pie, Lunatic and Banana, each presumably containing one scum. The caveat there is whether or not scum!Lunatic would put scum!Banana in his Dreamer result. In a 3 Mafia game, I would say yes, the soft bus is worth it, but in a 2 Mafia game, putting a teammate who's apparently a bit lynch-prone in something like that is risky. The only reason Banana's not gotten much scrutiny, I think, is because That2 and ADOL both crashed out, and I don't... believe scum!Lunatic would have been able to predict that?
If I take both of these points to be true, it puts me in a position where Pie is essentially forced to be evil. Which would be great, except for the cross that just happened. So I do have to pick between the other two.
Votes:
Lunatic (1/3): Banana
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