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@Bullish
what's worse, shrinks or cops
My shrink helped me a lot but I had to go through like 20 until I found a competent one so probably shrinks are worse
The Sopranos Mafia DP2
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(3/4) Lunatic- Bullish, Casey, that2
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@Casey_Risk
Vader has contradicted what you said about how your role works.
He said it's at least one scum in your three people and I have to look back at the conversation but it appears you claimed you asked him and he told you only one?
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@Bullish
@That2User
Can you guys unvote I want to explore why Casey lied before we decided on a lynch
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@WyIted
Vader has contradicted what you said about how your role works.
How so? What did you ask him and what did he say?
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@Casey_Risk
I asked him if dreamer results get exactly one scum or at least one scum and he told me at least one
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@WyIted
He said it's at least one scum in your three people and I have to look back at the conversation but it appears you claimed you asked him and he told you only one?
That is indeed what happened. However, I also asked him earlier today if a Godfather would affect my dream, and he said yes, so technically speaking there could be two scum in my dream, but only if one of them is the Godfather. I was going to reveal that publicly, but I was waiting for Luna to claim first.
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@Casey_Risk
What would you say if I told you I asked him a follow up question about 2 goons being in a potential dreamer results?
I really don't want to play this game where I play God of the gaps with you.
My only hang up is how would you know nobody visited you
I mentioned I visited Bullish prior to her announcing the dreamer results.
So the unaccounted for moves were between whiteflame and lunatic. I will have to look at their prior posts to see what's going on
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@WyIted
What would you say if I told you I asked him a follow up question about 2 goons being in a potential dreamer results?
All I can tell you is this: I asked Vader if it was possible that two of the three people I dreamed about are mafia, and he said that only one is. However, when I subsequently asked him if a Godfather could show up, he said that a Godfather would not appear alone, but could theoretically appear with their partner.
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@Casey_Risk
he said that only one is.
If he told you this specifically he needs to cop to it and apologize.
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@WyIted
Okay, if your instinct is to assume I'm lying, I 100% do not blame you and I promise I won't get upset at anyone who votes for me here in the endgame, but would you believe me if I told you that Vader just messaged me and told me that he messed up, and it's actually possible that my dream includes two scum, even if one of them is not a Godfather?
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@Casey_Risk
That's believable yes. Let me give it some thought. Why are we trusting whiteflame results when he was in everyone's scum pile last DP?
Why not unvote and give lunatic some wiggle room
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@Lunatic
If you are silenced place a vote anyway. If you only get one vote than place it anyway.
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@WyIted
That's believable yes. Let me give it some thought. Why are we trusting whiteflame results when he was in everyone's scum pile last DP?
Tbh, I came around on my scumread on WF. I liked his responses to me, and I saw the point you were making about him usually playing it safe as scum when it comes to reads and such. I know Pie said that WF can be really bold and has been recently (like when he killed the claimed PGO in ERB Mafia), and that's true, but there's a difference between being bold when it comes to mechanics and just general interactions/reads, which is what you were getting at, and tbh I agree. Also, I wanted (and still want) to wait for Luna to claim before I come to a conclusion about whether or not WF is lying about his role.
Why not unvote and give lunatic some wiggle room
He's already at L-1, I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to just hammer him right now before he even claims, and if there was an Executioner, they'd have already used their role on Luna if they were going to. When he does claim, I'll Unvote.
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@Casey_Risk
I could see lunatic being silenced and whiteflame claiming he saw him visit and he flips innocent and the next DP it flips that he had a visiting role so it gives whiteflame plausible deniability
The lack of caution that made me want to town read whiteflame is not his reads but in his attitude. He tries to play it straight as both alignments in the personality dept. But here and I wish I had time to pull up the posts he seems to not care how others view him.
Now it's all a scale so what may be on a scale of 4 for me not caring might be 10 for whiteflame so I am comparing the attitude to his baseline not to an arbitrary one
I could see a world where Casey and whiteflame are a team and made a big play this DP.
Something like her and whiteflame being scum together and a mislynch of lunatic would have us then lynch whiteflame and then we would just lynch the 3 in her list one by one thinking one will for sure be scum and then we get burned.
The silencing of lunatic would also explain why dreamer is a safe claim if that in fact happened, particularly if bullish was blocked and I admitted visiting him
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@WyIted
I could see lunatic being silenced and whiteflame claiming he saw him visit and he flips innocent and the next DP it flips that he had a visiting role so it gives whiteflame plausible deniability
That's a fair point. It is weird that Luna has been online for so much of today yet hasn't said anything yet. I know there is a very strong variant of Silencer that prevents someone from speaking OR voting and doesn't publicly reveal that the target has been silenced, either, but I've never seen a version that strong be used before on this site. I'm going to go to bed soon, I'll see what's happened (or not) in the thread in the morning.
Keeping lunatic at L1 right now is a shitty move guys, particularly for that2 who was in the scum PM and knows how lunatic feels about scum who don't try. He wouldn't just lay down if he was seen NKing somebody
Dreamer is not a safe claim unless that2's role is known. It's risky.
Let's get a full claim from that2
Unvote VTL that2
Lunatic literally chimes in here. Not sure how I missed it
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12552-the-sopranos-mafia-dp2?page=1&post_number=5
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@Vader
I guess we can get more information next DP
Unvote VTL Lunatic
Sorry guys I just want to solve the game.
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@whiteflame
I like you kid. I don't know why I am tagging you here.
Vote Count
[4/4] Lunatic - (Wylted, Bullish, That2, Casey)
Lunatic was lynched, he was... GUILTY. Submit all NP actions by 4/7/25 at 9:15AM
This is a HARD deadline for ALL actions