Children can consent

Author: Best.Korea

Posts

Hot
Total: 66
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
Why would anyone think that children cant consent?

Common, fight me on this.
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 7,331
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8
-->
@Best.Korea

Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@FLRW
Are you saying that children shouldnt have a choice?
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,571
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Why would anyone think that children cant consent?
In addition to all the reasons FLRW gave showing how children are prone to making decisions that will negatively impact them later on in life, children are also much more easily manipulable. So allowing them to decide leaves then far more vulnerable to abuse.

Common, fight me on this.
Why? Is granting children the right to choose really something you want?
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Double_R
Why? Is granting children the right to choose really something you want?
Yes. If children cant consent, then they either are property with other people making decisions for them, which is slavery, either other people cant make decisions for them, and then no decisions can even be logically made and every option is wrong, which cannot work.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
Of course, children can consent, but that doesn't matter, consent gets you prison, no consent gets you prison, and in prison it doesn't matter to your boyfriend Butch whether you consent or not. 


Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
Of course, children can consent, but that doesn't matter, consent gets you prison
This isnt a debate about prison punishment. Its a debate about if child should have a right to choose. I defend position that child should have a choice. My opponent defends position that child shouldnt have a choice.
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,574
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Why? Is granting children the right to choose really something you want?
Yes. If children cant consent, then they either are property with other people making decisions for them, which is slavery, either other people cant make decisions for them, and then no decisions can even be logically made and every option is wrong, which cannot work.

Kids younger than 12 cannot consent to any type of sexual activity. Having sex with a child younger than 12 is against the law and is sexual abuse
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Shila
Kids younger than 12 cannot consent to any type of sexual activity.
This is a debate about consent, not specifically consent to sexual activity, but we can debate that too.
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,574
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Kids younger than 12 cannot consent to any type of sexual activity.
This is a debate about consent, not specifically consent to sexual activity, but we can debate that too

What is the youngest consent law?
Age of consent in the United States 
In the United States, each state and territory sets the age of consent either by statute or the common law applies, and there are several federal statutes related to protecting minors from sexual predators. Depending on the jurisdiction, the legal age of consent is between 16 and 18.

Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Shila
What is the youngest consent law?
Age of consent in the United States
In the United States, each state and territory sets the age of consent either by statute or the common law applies, and there are several federal statutes related to protecting minors from sexual predators. Depending on the jurisdiction, the legal age of consent is between 16 and 18.
Law doesnt determine the truth. Present reasons for why children shouldnt have a choice.
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,571
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Why? Is granting children the right to choose really something you want?
Yes. If children cant consent, then they either are property with other people making decisions for them, which is slavery, either other people cant make decisions for them, and then no decisions can even be logically made and every option is wrong, which cannot work.
Q1. Do you believe a 4 year old should be able to consent?

Q2. Do you have any response to the point I made about children being easily manipulable and the harm that would certainly follow from what you are suggesting?

Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,574
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Best.Korea
What is the youngest consent law?
Age of consent in the United States
In the United States, each state and territory sets the age of consent either by statute or the common law applies, and there are several federal statutes related to protecting minors from sexual predators. Depending on the jurisdiction, the legal age of consent is between 16 and 18.

Law doesnt determine the truth. Present reasons for why children shouldnt have a choice.

Why can't children make decisions?
Cognitive Development: Children's brains are still developing, particularly the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for decision-making, impulse control, and understanding long-term consequences. This can lead to choices that are not fully informed or rational.

Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Double_R
@Shila
Children can learn things, thus they can consent to things they know. No person has all knowledge, thus it is not necessary to have all knowledge in order to consent, only some knowledge, which children can have. If all knowledge was necessary to consent, then no person would be able to consent, which doesnt work.
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 6,466
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Barney
@Vader
@whiteflame
Please just permaban his ass. His whole profile is the definition of “excessive trolling.” His contributions to the site are negative and it’s likely that new users see shit like this from him and nope the fuck out.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Of course, children can consent, but that doesn't matter, consent gets you prison
This isnt a debate about prison punishment. Its a debate about if child should have a right to choose. I defend position that child should have a choice. My opponent defends position that child shouldnt have a choice.
You want to debate if children have the right to consent to being raped?

Even though, either way, you get to squeal like a pig for Butch?
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Mharman
Are you afraid of debate or something? You do understand that this is a debate site?
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
You want to debate if children have the right to consent to being raped?
No. I am merely defending the position that children can consent. Are you going to present arguments for why children shouldnt be given a choice?
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 6,466
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Best.Korea
You don’t debate. You ragebait.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Mharman
You don’t debate. You ragebait.
If you want to ban every topic which offends you, then I dont know what to tell you.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
You want to debate if children have the right to consent to being raped?
No. I am merely defending the position that children can consent.
I am merely defending the position that it doesn't matter whether or not they consent.

Are you going to present arguments for why children shouldn't be given a choice?
OK, here is my argument, it doesn't matter.

I win.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
I am merely defending the position that it doesn't matter whether or not they consent
So can they consent or not?
Mharman
Mharman's avatar
Debates: 23
Posts: 6,466
3
6
10
Mharman's avatar
Mharman
3
6
10
-->
@Best.Korea
Case in point.

You know damn well it’s not over this one thread, and I haven’t sought bans on other users for threads they’ve created or debates they’ve started. I’ve asked mods to ban a few users for other reasons for sure, but never over what you do.

I will not be responding any further.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
I am merely defending the position that it doesn't matter whether or not they consent
So can they consent or not?
OK, so if you consent, Butch makes you squeal like a pig, if you don't consent, Butch makes you squeal like a pig.

So, did you have the right to consent?

Consider Butch's feelings, is he more satisfied if you consent, or don't consent?  


Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Mharman
I am here to debate the topic, not whatever issues you have with me.
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
You wouldnt want anyone else deciding about you without your consent, so saying that children should suffer that treatment is inconsistent.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
You wouldnt want anyone else deciding about you without your consent,
That's my point Sweetcheeks, Butch is deciding about you whether you consent or not, so it doesn't matter.

so saying that children should suffer that treatment is inconsistent.
No, it isn't inconsistent, maybe Butch likes it when you play hard to get, maybe he won't respect you in the morning if you consent. 

You don't get to pretend there are no consequences, what's the point of fantasizing that children can give consent?  Either way, you squeal like a pig.

Fantasize about Butch for a minute, after you squeal like a pig for him, did you have the right to consent?  
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
Children who become smartest are those who have choices in childhood, so saying that children shouldnt be allowed to choose or consent is harmful.
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Best.Korea
Children who become smartest are those who have choices in childhood, so saying that children shouldnt be allowed to choose or consent is harmful.
The definition of consent is to "give permission", not matter what the child says, you don't have permission, the child cannot give you permission, you don't have the right, and children can't give you a right you don't have.

It's really not complicated, if you still don't get it, maybe Butch can drill it into you, so to speak.


Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Sidewalker
Giving children right to consent protects children from abuse. If parents have no right to deny their children of choice, then they are less likely to deny children of choice. This protects children from over controlling parents. Over controlling parents are scientifically proved to harm child's decision making development and child's knowledge and confidence and ability to reject unwanted advances.