How does spray painting swastikas fight Nazis? Don't Nazis like swastikas?

Author: Savant
Tesla
nazi
swastika

Posts

Total: 18
Topic's author
#1
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 24
Posts: 2,703
4
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
4
7
6
Protestors are drawing swastikas on cars. See here, here, and here. Apparently, this is being done in an effort to fight Nazis.

My question is, are any Nazis bothered by the drawing of swastikas? I was under the impression that Nazis draw swastikas all the time. When did swastikas become an anti-Nazi symbol?
#2
Best.Korea
Best.Korea's avatar
Debates: 395
Posts: 12,477
4
6
10
Best.Korea's avatar
Best.Korea
4
6
10
-->
@Savant
I was thinking of drawing swastikas on my arms until I realized that its a symbol of losers. It has two meanings. One is Hitler, who had many swastika flags everywhere yet still lost a war and thus is a loser even if he was morally right. The other meaning is indian peace symbol, and I dont like or want to be a peaceful loser.
#3
Barney
Barney's avatar
Debates: 53
Posts: 3,621
5
9
10
Barney's avatar
Barney
5
9
10
-->
@Savant
❤️❤️❤️
#4
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,882
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
-->
@Savant
I have been wondering the same thing. If they think Musk is really a closet Nazi, how would swastikas be an offense to him? Or if swastikas are offensive to him, doesn’t that mean he is decidedly not a Nazi? Isn’t this what actual Nazis do to intimidate people?

#5
sadolite
sadolite's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,308
3
2
4
sadolite's avatar
sadolite
3
2
4
If you are vandalizing other peoples property because of your but hurt politics, you are nothing more than a terrorist and no better than one. You are just human excrement that needs to be flushed.
#6
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,263
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Barney
Protestors are drawing hearts on responses.   Apparently, this is being done in an effort to fight nice people.

My question is, are any Nice people bothered by the drawing of hearts? I was under the impression that Nice people draw hearts all the time. When did hearts become an anti-Nice symbol?

#7
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,574
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Savant
When did swastikas become an anti-Nazi symbol?
Since World War II, the swastika has become stigmatized as a symbol of hatred and racial bias. It is used frequently by white-supremacy groups and modern iterations of the Nazi Party. Along with other symbolism employed by the party, the use of the icon has been outlawed in Germany.
#8
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Savant
Protestors are drawing swastikas on cars. See here, here, and here. Apparently, this is being done in an effort to fight Nazis.
I'm pretty sure it's directed at Elon Musk, here is the beginning of the article you posted:

"Vandals sprayed swastikas and anti-fascist slogans on a Tesla car showroom in The Hague on Sunday night in a jab at owner Elon Musk, who is an adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump and faced outrage for delivering a "Nazi salute" last month."

"The perpetrators defaced the building's facade with slogans like "No to Nazis" and "Fuck off fascist," and drew swastikas on the entrance door of the building, echoing a similar incident that took place in Berlin last week."

And your thinking is, if Musk is a Nazi, why would he have a problem with this?  Seriously?

My question is, are any Nazis bothered by the drawing of swastikas? I was under the impression that Nazis draw swastikas all the time.
Let's say you are a Republican, if vandals spray painted elephants on your car and defaced your home with slogans like "No to GOP" and "Fuck off Republicans", you would be OK with it, you know, because Republicans use images of elephants all the time? Seriously?

When did swastikas become an anti-Nazi symbol?
When people spray paint them on the Nazi's car, that's when.

And when they are used to call a senior government official a Nazi, then too.

I really doubt Musk is confused about what they mean to convey by their use of the symbol.





#9
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@cristo71
I have been wondering the same thing. If they think Musk is really a closet Nazi, how would swastikas be an offense to him? Or if swastikas are offensive to him, doesn’t that mean he is decidedly not a Nazi? Isn’t this what actual Nazis do to intimidate people?
I guess in will remain a mystery until we see whether or not Musk thanks the vandals.

Maybe the people who spray painted the cars meant it as a complement, yeah, that's probably it, they are probably big Musk fans, and he probably appreciates it.
Topic's author
#10
Savant
Savant's avatar
Debates: 24
Posts: 2,703
4
7
6
Savant's avatar
Savant
4
7
6
-->
@Sidewalker
Let's say you are a Republican, if vandals spray painted elephants on your car
Nazis have repeatedly spray painted swastikas to promote racism. It's like putting a burning cross in front of a building or hanging a dummy from a noose. Spray painting elephants does not have the same connotation.

and defaced your home with slogans like "No to GOP" 
Except in the first three examples I linked, there's no text. Just swastikas being spray painted.

When people spray paint them on the Nazi's car, that's when.
So buying a Tesla is Nazi behavior, but spray painting a swastika isn't? Also Nazis would put swastikas on their cars all the time. Or spray paint them on other people's property, kind of like protesters are doing now.

What about this one? Do you think whoever painted that is telling the Nazis to "get out"?
#11
cristo71
cristo71's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,882
3
2
3
cristo71's avatar
cristo71
3
2
3
“Don’t think you can just co-opt the swastika and use it to intimidate your enemies. That is what WE do. Don’t make it symbolize your bullshit, Commie Jew agenda.”
-David Duke

#12
Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,633
4
5
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
5
10
-->
@Savant
I would imagine, but not know, that the intent of some swastika spray painting, is to paint X people as Nazis.
Bit ironic, given that the Nazis forced a number of Jews to wear yellow stars of David, to identify them as Jews. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge
Not that I think X people are or are not similar to Nazis.

Though I'd view it as a 'bad irony for the spray painters, why emulate Nazi dehumanization of others, or the breaking of windows of those one disagrees with?
#13
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Savant
Let's say you are a Republican, if vandals spray painted elephants on your car
Nazis have repeatedly spray painted swastikas to promote racism. It's like putting a burning cross in front of a building or hanging a dummy from a noose. Spray painting elephants does not have the same connotation.

and defaced your home with slogans like "No to GOP" 
Except in the first three examples I linked, there's no text. Just swastikas being spray painted.

When people spray paint them on the Nazi's car, that's when.
So buying a Tesla is Nazi behavior, but spray painting a swastika isn't? Also Nazis would put swastikas on their cars all the time. Or spray paint them on other people's property, kind of like protesters are doing now.

What about this one? Do you think whoever painted that is telling the Nazis to "get out"?
Yeah, you are right, these people are probably showing their support for Nazis.

I'm sure the Nazis appreciate it too.


#14
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,263
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Sidewalker
It's probably the same thing as ghetto blacks calling each other nigger as a point of pride. It's edgy and cool, and scores a lot of pussy.
#15
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,574
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
When people spray paint them on the Nazi's car, that's when.

And when they are used to call a senior government official a Nazi, then too.

I really doubt Musk is confused about what they mean to convey by their use of the symbol.
Elon Musk invited them to paint the Nazi symbol on his cars by doing the Nazi salute in public.
#16
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,263
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Shila
So the painters are fellow Nazis.
#17
Sidewalker
Sidewalker's avatar
Debates: 8
Posts: 3,240
3
2
5
Sidewalker's avatar
Sidewalker
3
2
5
-->
@Greyparrot
I've never taken acid, I'll admit I'm curious as hell, but I never tried it.

Anyway, reading this thread is what I imagine taking LSD would be like.
#18
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 27,263
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Sidewalker
Yeah, the days of actual niggers and nazis are long gone.

Now it's just stories around a digital campfire.