"The Cutting of Federal Workers is causing more plane crashes"

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The National Transportation Safety Board is an independent U.S. government investigative agency responsible for civil transportation accident investigation.
The mass hysteria created by the media and the left is absolutely ridiculous. Fear mongering to the average population to diminish a president is so ludicrous. If Conservatives did this to Liberals there would be a mass persecution
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Yes, it’s a pretty classic “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy. It usually takes at least a few years for an administration’s policies to actually yield results, good or bad.

But who exactly is claiming this, and what is the relevance of your NTSB references?
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The NTSB as described in the post #1

The National Transportation Safety Board is an independent U.S. government investigative agency responsible for civil transportation accident investigation.

The dashboard I linked shows the amount of cases reported to the NTSB on a per month basis. As we can see from the chart. January had 64 crashes versus 80 last year. 55 for Feburary versus 93 last year.

Thus there is a trend that shows that aviation accidents are on the decline despite the immediate reporting of the crashes when they happen.
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If they keep this up, they will reduce federal spending by maybe 1 trillion after two years.

I dont really see whats the deal with reducing spending bit by bit.

It needs to be like 2 trillion less spending within a year.

Right now, US spends 7 trillions per year.

It needs to be reduced to 4 to 5 trillions by the end of the year. Otherwise, you guys wont achieve much.
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If they keep this up, they will reduce federal spending by maybe 1 trillion after two years.

I dont really see whats the deal with reducing spending bit by bit.

It needs to be like 2 trillion less spending within a year.

Right now, US spends 7 trillions per year.

It needs to be reduced to 4 to 5 trillions by the end of the year. Otherwise, you guys wont achieve much.
You forgot the reinstatement of Trump’s tax cuts to the wealthy will cost the country another 4.7 trillion dollars. The deficit could go up by 9 trillion under Trump despite cuts to Medicaid and other cuts.
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You are correct— there are actually less aviation accidents this year than the same period last year. The problem is that the recent accidents are very high profile with many more fatalities than previously. Still, the fallacious nature of said analysis you are criticizing holds true.
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You forgot the reinstatement of Trump’s tax cuts to the wealthy will cost the country another 4.7 trillion dollars. The deficit could go up by 9 trillion under Trump despite cuts to Medicaid and other cuts.
I support replacing some taxes with money printing. But I was talking about spending, not deficit. 

Spending can decrease even if deficit increases.

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You forgot the reinstatement of Trump’s tax cuts to the wealthy will cost the country another 4.7 trillion dollars. The deficit could go up by 9 trillion under Trump despite cuts to Medicaid and other cuts.
I support replacing some taxes with money printing. But I was talking about spending, not deficit. 

Spending can decrease even if deficit increases
Tax cuts is lost revenue and adds to the deficit.
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The NTSB as described in the post #1
Are you saying that the NTSB is claiming that federal workforce cuts are causal factors to the current accidents?

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Correct but even if we look at the fatal crashes, only 16 crashes so far have been fatal, being an average of 8 per month (should be 0 but point still stands)

Last year there was 261 fatal crashes, which means an average of 21.75 fatal plane crashes a month. I haven’t seen any stat about the total deaths but the average is 3x less than the rate of the crashes this year

As for #9, no I’m not. I’m responding to a common criticism that cutting workers were linked to increased plane crashes based on impartial evidence I gave 
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On a related note, I heard that near-miss (George Carlin would have called it a near-hit, but I digress) statistics reached an all time high under DEI initiatives the past 4 years where inexperienced pilots were thrust into the workforce to fill quotas. I recall this being reported when discussing the upside down Delta jet.
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Yes, this is why I found United’s stated goal of having its pilot group proportionally represent the entire US demographic so distressing. It’s fine to want to cast a wider net in recruitment but not to micromanage and predetermine what that net will ultimately catch.

Aviation has been in a high workforce demand period since the high early retirement period of the COVID pandemic. The most safety sensitive occupations are pilot, ATC, and mechanics. If there were ever positions in which DEI initiatives should be given a back seat, it would be those.

There was a fatal accident with an Atlas cargo plane several years ago. One of the accident pilots appeared to be… “artificially sustained” by Atlas. It can be tough for an airline, as fired employees almost always file lawsuits of wrongful termination— especially DEI congruent employees. In this case, the pilot’s family is suing Atlas for allowing their poor son to fly when he wasn’t a safe pilot! This is why I call DEI/antiracism/woke “the tiger which eats its own tail”— it sets up a lose/lose proposition at every turn…

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Lawsuits are the ultimate weapon vs woke culture. When you are held accountable for due diligence, you cannot afford to pick the worst.
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Lawsuits are also the weapon OF woke culture. Regarding my Atlas example, they were doomed to be sued regardless— they would have been sued for firing the pilot but instead were sued for keeping the pilot.