Should undocumented immigrants get rights?

By saying a group of people SHOULD get no rights; you are saying it should be legal to rape them.

Should it be legal to rape an undocumented woman?  Be honest.  Because if you say they should have no rights and you're MAGA; then you would answer that as a Yes.

I'm saying No because I have a moral conscience and they should get equal rights to the native born in every aspect.  But lets call a spade a spade; undocumented immigrants should get rights.

DO you not have a life? Literally zero people on the planet think illegal immigrants deserve no rights beyond the occasional hyperbole of boomers

I like migrants better than people.

Remember that the Pilgrims were immigrants.

Yeah, and they wouldn't have survived the winter if the people that lived here didn't share their resources with them.

If the Wampanoag people were MAGA Republicans. the Pilgrims would have died.

I think this position is more defensible if you start with the right you think immigrants should have. I support freedom of movement prima facie for pretty much everyone on the planet. If you can violate that, you can pretty easily violate freedom of association, freedom to practice religion, freedom to protest in public places, and even property rights to some extent. I guess you could condition all those rights on the will of the majority or government, but most people wouldn't want to go that far.

Then state what rights they should and shouldn't have that a US Citizen gets.  I've read people say that their rights don't matter; implying that it would be ok to rape them.

I think undocumented immigrants and the native born should get the same rights in every aspect.

I think in order to vote, you need to be able to pass the citizenship test whether or not you're born here.

Saying undocumented immigrant is the same as saying  They have the proper paper work but just forgot it and walked around the check point and never bothered to go back and get it. But they have a right to be here just like everyone one else who did it the legal and proper way.

Migrants are poisoning the blood of our country with their honest work and humble decent lifestyle. We should only accept rich migrants who are greedy and corrupt like us.

Most people didn't work for it; most Americans were born with it.

But the argument isn't good.

Lets say there is a park, a bench, 2 old people on the bench; and they watch 2 young people walk past them with their iphones.

The old people say, "How come THESE young people get Iphones without WAITING like we did?  Ban iphones unless you wait your turn!"

Do they have a point?  No.

If life becomes easier, then great!

Some old people follow a line of logic "I didnt have a good life, so neither should you.". I find it amazing how their brain died so instead of celebrating progress, they are complaining.

undocumented ones should be given rights, thou the govt. should do their homework on em, u can't let terrorists roaming ya streets.

cz most of the the undocuented ones migrate as they r hvin a hard time, so as humans n while keeping some morals under consideration, it won't be bad to help them.

besides they do tend to work much better sometimes than the natives. so it would be unjust to set them aside.

"So, greed and corruption are virtues now? Strange how honesty and hard work became threats—unless, of course, corruption is the system’s real currency."

The issue with illegal immigration is that there is a lot of illegal immigrants that do come to America and work hard to provide a life more themselves. However we can't deny that some of the liberal cities are harboring criminals that are illegal and have violent crimes. Why do you think cities don't require voting ID's and are shoving them into blue cities? To inflate the population and push more Dem voters. Dems are so eager to call out crimes on white conservatives and other people who legally enter, but refuse to call out anything when it doesn't benefit their agenda?

I do believe that we should make the path toward immigration easier. I can admit that America citizens are trending more and more toward white collar jobs rather than the blue collared jobs and trades. There are currently shortages that CAN NOT be filled with the 3rd or 4th generation immigrants. The path to citizenship should be much easier than what it is so that we have a constant cycle of immigrants doing the blue collared jobs and then having their children go about turning into white collar workers. That is the optimal way of America that has been shared for a while.

It's not enough of a value to just have "hard workers" in the country for the good of the country.

If we imported 5 million Russians and just judged them on being "good workers", that wouldn't automatically make them a good addition or a good fit for American culture and the stability of America.

Importing 5 million of any divergent culture doesn't make them automatically a great fit, regardless of the hard work.

I think you are correct in the short term, but I would tend to disagree from a long term perspective. If we look at the growth of America through the early stages of the US, you can apply the same type of saying you talk about. However, when you look back to the present times and look at the 3rd and 4th generation immigrants and their values, they tend to adopt to the American mindset and blend in quite well over time. Hell you can even see it with immigrats as late as the 2000s to a certain extent. It just takes time to adjust

There is a huge cultural difference between Asia and Europe, and America would be a completely different place today if all those immigrants in the 1900's mostly came from outside of Europe. Yes Asians are "hard workers," but culturally, they also tend toward authoritarian centralized governments and care little for individual liberty. South Americans inherit the caste systems of Spain enforced with strictly defined hierarchies.

Asian culture, emphasizes social harmony, deep respect for authority, and duty to the collective and those are values that run counter to the deeply individualistic, rights-based traditions of the West.