Should undocumented immigrants get rights?

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Underwear has no rights; do I get to cum inside underwear without it's consent?  Yes.
By saying a group of people SHOULD get no rights; you are saying it should be legal to rape them.

So either own that or admit that yes; undocumented immigrants deserve rights.
Should it be legal to rape an undocumented woman?  Be honest.  Because if you say they should have no rights and you're MAGA; then you would answer that as a Yes.

I'm saying No because I have a moral conscience and they should get equal rights to the native born in every aspect.  But lets call a spade a spade; undocumented immigrants should get rights.
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DO you not have a life? Literally zero people on the planet think illegal immigrants deserve no rights beyond the occasional hyperbole of boomers
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I like migrants better than people.
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Remember that the Pilgrims were immigrants.
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Remember that the Pilgrims were immigrants.
Yeah, and they wouldn't have survived the winter if the people that lived here didn't share their resources with them.

If the Wampanoag people were MAGA Republicans. the Pilgrims would have died.




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@RemyBrown
I'm saying No because I have a moral conscience and they should get equal rights to the native born in every aspect.  But lets call a spade a spade; undocumented immigrants should get rights.

Rights and Protections of the Undocumented Worker
Undocumented workers do have rights and protections. Federal and state laws prevent workplace discrimination and offer remedies for employer violations. The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), the Department of Labor (DOL), the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) all enforce workplace protections regardless of immigration status (Gleeson, 2010). Undocumented workers are entitled to minimum wage, overtime pay, breaks and tips and are protected under health, safety, and anti-discrimination laws as well (“Undocumented Workers’ Employment Rights,” n.d.). However, ongoing systemic failures to enforce employer sanctions and limit the involvement of immigration law in labor disputes discourage undocumented workers from fighting unfair work treatment (Wishnie, 2003).

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@RemyBrown
I think this position is more defensible if you start with the right you think immigrants should have. I support freedom of movement prima facie for pretty much everyone on the planet. If you can violate that, you can pretty easily violate freedom of association, freedom to practice religion, freedom to protest in public places, and even property rights to some extent. I guess you could condition all those rights on the will of the majority or government, but most people wouldn't want to go that far.
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Then state what rights they should and shouldn't have that a US Citizen gets.  I've read people say that their rights don't matter; implying that it would be ok to rape them.
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I think undocumented immigrants and the native born should get the same rights in every aspect.

I think in order to vote, you need to be able to pass the citizenship test whether or not you're born here.
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Saying undocumented immigrant is the same as saying  They have the proper paper work but just forgot it and walked around the check point and never bothered to go back and get it. But they have a right to be here just like everyone one else who did it the legal and proper way.
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No I am not going to list out the thousands of rights one by one. The arguments are they shouldn't have the same rights as US citizens. Not a single person has ever stated they deserve to be raped but only that they don't have rights like the right to food stamps for example and American would get. Stop strawmanning
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Remember that the Pilgrims were immigrants.
Migrants are poisoning the blood of our country with their honest work and humble decent lifestyle. We should only accept rich migrants who are greedy and corrupt like us.
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But they have a right to be here just like everyone one else who did it the legal and proper way.
Most people didn't work for it; most Americans were born with it.

But the argument isn't good.

Lets say there is a park, a bench, 2 old people on the bench; and they watch 2 young people walk past them with their iphones.

The old people say, "How come THESE young people get Iphones without WAITING like we did?  Ban iphones unless you wait your turn!"

Do they have a point?  No.

If life becomes easier, then great!
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The old people say, "How come THESE young people get Iphones without WAITING like we did?  Ban iphones unless you wait your turn!"
Some old people follow a line of logic "I didnt have a good life, so neither should you.". I find it amazing how their brain died so instead of celebrating progress, they are complaining.
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undocumented ones should be given rights, thou the govt. should do their homework on em, u can't let terrorists roaming ya streets.
cz most of the the undocuented ones migrate as they r hvin a hard time, so as humans n while keeping some morals under consideration, it won't be bad to help them.
besides they do tend to work much better sometimes than the natives. so it would be unjust to set them aside.
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Migrants are poisoning the blood of our country with their honest work and humble decent lifestyle. We should only accept rich migrants who are greedy and corrupt like us.
"So, greed and corruption are virtues now? Strange how honesty and hard work became threats—unless, of course, corruption is the system’s real currency."