Why does Trump hate Mexico?

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I'm under the impression that Trump hates Mexico, or at the very least doesn't like it.

I'm going to be honest, I don't like it either. I met a lot of mexicans and these people are rude, nationalists and fkn ignorant. Not all but most of them are. Besides, Mexico has a lot problems that says a lot about its society, like the rampant corruption, discrimination, violence, drug cartels, and so on, mexican society is fkn sick and has no remedy imho. Although there are people that think Mexicans are happy regardless, even happier than Americans.

I'd like to know what you think about them. Are they a problem for the US? Are they your friends that just need a hand? Do you think Trump is treating them fairly?
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Why does Trump hate Mexico?
Why do Mexicans hate Mexico? They're the ones who keep trying to leave it.
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Trump hates all poor countries, not just Mexico.
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Trump also hates muslims. He calls them "sand people".

He also hates Chinese. He calls them "losers that eat rice".
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 Donald Trump had harsh words for Mexico. “They are not our friend, believe me,” he said, before disparaging Mexican immigrants: “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
 Immigrants have a 62% lower homicide rate and undocumented immigrants have a 41% lower total criminal conviction rate than native-born Americans.
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Hey, Savant. How are you doing?

What is your take on Mexicans? Try to be brutally honest, please. 
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But you didn’t tell us what you think about them.

Judging by your hatred to Trump I guess you get along with Mexicans. Lol. 
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What is your take on Mexicans?
I like cheap labor.
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undocumented immigrants have a 41% lower total criminal conviction rate than native-born Americans.
That conviction rate is going to be close to 100% soon, for illegal entry.
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Mexico elected the equivilent of AOC and Elizabeth Warren as president. They are in for some real fun times.
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I'd like to know what you think about them. Are they a problem for the US? Are they your friends that just need a hand? Do you think Trump is treating them fairly?
Based on how much money US immigrants sent overseas in 2022, scholars estimated how much they earned and, from there, how much productivity they provided to the U.S. economy. The study estimated immigrants' total contribution to the U.S. economy exceeded $2 trillion in 2022.
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undocumented immigrants have a 41% lower total criminal conviction rate than native-born Americans.
So, one can conclude that open immigration would be ideal?

Unless they commit 0 crimes (other than illegally entering), illegal immigrants actually do increase overall crime; they just reduce the overall crime rate when included as members of the US population. The problem is that these crimes are committed by people who shouldn’t even be here to commit them. And crime isn’t the only issue— costly social services and porous borders are incompatible with each other.

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illegal immigrants actually do increase overall crime
So do Americans, but Americans increase overall crime much more.
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Yes but American population is declining, meaning less total crime over time.

Increasing population of illegals increases total crime instances. (like that illegal that set fire to that American on the NY subway)

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Yes but American population is declining, meaning less total crime over time.
Still much more crime than in migrant population.
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The FBI is gonna tic a box when an American is set on fire by an illegal.

Americans tic a completely different box. That's why Trump won.
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Americans tic a completely different box.
Americans dont believe in any equality. They believe they are superior to others and more important than others, which causes conflicts in American society because one American considers himself more important than other American, thus society degrades.
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Correct, because Americans earned the right to set themselves on fire. Manifest Destiny is still alive.
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Nature always avenges the violation of her commands. Thus, when a person considers himself more important than others, he causes harm to others, which creates a worse world and degrades society by destroying common purpose of humanity.
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Still much more crime than in migrant population.
Again, what is the takeaway from the immigrant crime data?

Open borders are favorable to closed borders? Then why does every country have closed borders?
Illegal immigrants should be able to become police officers?
The threat of deportation is a more effective deterrent than the US prison system?
Childbirth inside US borders should be discouraged?

And what is the crime data for US born children of illegal immigrants?
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what is the takeaway from the immigrant crime data?
The takeaway is that migrants are people too just like Americans, migrants bring in their money, and US birth rates due to its sterilized population are not enough to replace workforce.

Open borders are favorable to closed borders? Then why does every country have closed borders?
Those are not the only two options.

Illegal immigrants should be able to become police officers?
Well, you probably want them to do something useful instead.

The threat of deportation is a more effective deterrent than the US prison system?
I dont know. US prison system uses rape as punishment, yet Americans still do crime. 

Childbirth inside US borders should be discouraged?
Normally, countries want to increase their birth rates.

And what is the crime data for US born children of illegal immigrants?
Those are American citizens, so I assume it is higher than in migrants.
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The takeaway is that migrants are people too just like Americans, migrants bring in their money, and US birth rates due to its sterilized population are not enough to replace workforce.
That takeaway does not contradict the President’s policies.

Those are not the only two options.
Sure. Care to expand?

Edit: By “closed borders” I actually mean secure, controlled borders with regulated immigration, not “no immigration at all.”
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That takeaway does not contradict the President’s policies.
I was explaining why migrants are good, and why it is in US interest to turn most of illegal migrants into legal migrants instead of deporting them.

Sure. Care to expand?
Edit: By “closed borders” I actually mean secure, controlled borders with regulated immigration, not “no immigration at all.”
You can control who comes in, and simply not let in criminals, but focus on letting in families. So if someone doesnt have record of a crime, he can enter USA. I dont think being an "illegal immigrant" on its own is a reason for deportation if person didnt commit any actual crime.
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I was explaining why migrants are good, and why it is in US interest to turn most of illegal migrants into legal migrants instead of deporting them.
That is merely a feelgood policy proposal with unintended consequences. The unwanted consequence of blanket amnesty would be heavily incentivizing more incursions at the border. The President’s deportation initiative is purported to focus on troublemakers.

So if someone doesnt have record of a crime, he can enter USA.
Any non criminal should be freely able to reside in any country permanently then. Why does no country have that policy?
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Why does no country have that policy?

Because the purpose of a country's government is to protect the culture of that country from being eliminated? Just spitballing here.
You know Hamas would love to welcome every Jew into Gaza, blindfolded and gagged preferably.
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What Would Jesus Do?
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Last I checked, Australia charges a non refundable fee of $4000 just to apply for residency. They even threatened to double that fee. It is very dehumanizing.
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What Would Jesus Do?

Nuke Gaza of course, and then allow open borders so the Jews in radiation suits could settle there finally in peace.
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What Would Jesus Do?
Jesus does whatever people want him to do, which leads to fascinating contradictions…

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The unwanted consequence of blanket amnesty would be heavily incentivizing more incursions at the border
Thats not an unwanted consequence. You want more migrants to replace your mostly sterilized population.

Any non criminal should be freely able to reside in any country permanently then.
They bring in money. They do hard work for you. They increase production. They increase birth rates. I would let them stay forever.

Why does no country have that policy?
Well, if you want to copy other countries, go ahead. Which great country would you copy, again?