This site is easy to replace and I am doing it

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Okay I am creating a new version of the website. We don't know when this one will take a shit on us and also there are other issues. LIke I don't want to promote the site if its disappearing randomly because "Mike" doesn't communicate with us. I am not even saying we use the site, only that it operates as a back up site.

We do have issues here though. The core members of DDO were smart, funny and cool people. The core people here are midwits and that is being generous and they will focus on shit like Orange man bad or whatever the conservative equivalent of that is, without ever actually debating ideals.

The project will be open source, once I figure out how to make it that way. That also means that if I ever do something stupid like allow users like Shila or best Korea to dominate discussions and further ruin the site or if I install Mods like David or BSH1 who choose to ban people for wrong think, you can simply fork the github repo and start a site with zero effort to take users away who don't value the principles we need to embody, which are freedom of thought without dipping into disresepect or into spamming.

Or hey if you like the disrespect or spamming, than just help me build the site out and then we will just fork it once complete to appeal to different audiences. anyway here is a video I am sure anyone who knows what they are doing will make fun of, but it shows how easy it is to start working on this project. I have to set up the editor to push to github and set up a github repository so we can work on this as a group.

I also feel like the audio is a bit low on the video. I am going to order a microphone to fix that but use captions if you have to, you probably won't but its there if you need it. Also if you are a developer give feedback please

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feedback on my coding skills or actually my lack of them please if you have time and care to donate your time for feedback
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That also means that if I ever do something stupid like allow users like Shila or best Korea to dominate discussions
I guess I shouldnt be allowed to speak due to my brain disorders, but its kinda nice to be able to.
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Anyway, I have started doing a book explaining posts, so if you have some books to recommend, feel free to. I already have plenty by Ayn Rand, Hegel, Marx, Hitler. The Dart book recommendations kinda died, so I need more books and I dont know who knows more about the world than you.
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Read everything evola wrote and I will give you another writer after him
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Thank you.
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Very cool, and best of luck with it!

I honestly considered doing much the same, but settled on something less time intensive for myself.
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Julius Evola is amazing. I have studied "Ride the Tiger" and "Revolt against the modern world".

I very much agree that material world has taken over and people arent really seeking knowledge and truth, but are just seeking to eat, shit and watch movies.

Again, thank you for introducing this amazing writer to me.

And also, thanks to AI, I will quickly study his works. AI has enabled me to read great works very quickly. Sometimes I tell AI to talk like some writer and answer my question so I understand better.
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I am putting this on GitHub and you can contribute if you want. 
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You have to read his books. Unless you are using a local LLM you trained on his material. They are too pozzed right now to be honest
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You have to read his books
I dont have patience to read whole books.

AI summary of key points and then expanding on those points means I get key ideas from book in 5 to 10 minutes.

If I read a book, it would take me days if not weeks for just one book, and then I would forget most of it anyway and still would only end up remembering key points.

Unless you are using a local LLM you trained on his material
I am just using google AI and bing AI. I didnt think about training them on text. I am not sure how much better and more effective would it be than simply asking key points, examples, quotes...ect.

They are too pozzed right now to be honest
I agree that AI is controlled by some interest group. However, when I ask for quotes, it very much must give me quotes from book. If it refuses to give quotes due to copyright or due to being sensitive (like with Mein Kampf), the quotes are still easily found on the internet in many cases, so the attempt to control AI is very much nonsense and I dont know why they put in so much effort into AI only to limit it so much.
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Who is the owner of debate art? I feel curious.
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I worked on figuring out git hub mostly today but the sign up form is looking better. Will finish figuring out github tomorrow and then work on adding people to help if anyone is interested. My focus is on creating mini targets and getting things functional fasts so


stage 1- functional sign-up form

stage 2- functional profile pages

stage 3- Using myspace as an inspiration for them

stage 4- get private messaging figured out, hopefully figure out how to keep PMs encrypted at some point hopefully to the point where even experienced developers are incapable of decrypting them

stage 5 have forums figured out

slowly just get things moving.



For school I have to learn Python and mysql/PHP so most of this is stuff I have to figure out anyway.

If I am on my own I am sticking with bootstrap for design, but hopefully at some point a person gets on who cares about CSS a bit. I know the interface of most modern forums sucks, although this forum as well as DDO was good as far as functionality. I went to some alternate mafia sites and those were just difficult for me to stick around, due to their interface
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Who is the owner of debate art? I feel curious.
Honestly nobody knows. He is either Russian or somewhere near there and a lot of us want to know so we can make sure he is getting donations and being taken care of. All I know right now is that I want to give on Patreon but I feel like he probably isn't even getting what is donated so it's likely pointless.

The Russians also are having their servers attacked by Ukrain and due to Windows and Linux admins not being able to offer support for their servers, they are becoming extremely vulnerable really fast.
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Well, I'm not sure why you want to create another forum site but in my opinion it's not necessary to create one from scratch.

There are lot of forum site templates out there that you can get and customize. You don’t even have to code, just hire a philippine programmer as a slave to get the job done.
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Yes you can get a forum plugin for WordPress. If the point of my project was merely to obtain a forum I would use a WordPress plugin or go to a site that does it. I do have a discord I have not been active in and that is essentially a free forum building app.

It's funny I was watching a guy code a game engine the other day and he was getting the same questions.

For me it's not really about getting a quick result. It's not even necessarily about finishing. I am trying to learn some skills here and have fun
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Ester vilar the manipulated man


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For me it's not really about getting a quick result. It's not even necessarily about finishing. I am trying to learn some skills here and have fun
Oh, I see.

Maybe it would be helpful for you to know that before starting to code it's recommended to have a UI design. That saves you a lot of time.
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That also means that if I ever do something stupid like allow users like Shila or best Korea to dominate discussions
I guess I shouldnt be allowed to speak due to my brain disorders, but it’s kinda nice to be able to.
I guess with your brain disorder there can only be one left to dominate discussions.
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Okay, I have this crazy idea right now.

Would you create a site with no win system?

I think win systems clearly encourage farming and actually discourage good debates.

I dont know why a debate needs to have "declared winner". By ancient logic, everyone is a winner in a debate except a person who refuses to learn from it.

To put it simply, you can have on your site ability to write a short opinion on debate (kinda like writing a vote here), and writing comments, but with no points award and no any kind of win system.

I think that will prevent many annoying things which happen here, and its much less work for you, plus you wont need to check and remove votes all the time for years to come.

Try it for a start if you want.
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Would you create a site with no win system?
That’s like declaring Trump never lost a debate because there were no winners.
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Shouldn't the name of this site be changed to ShilaArt?
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Shouldn't the name of this site be changed to ShilaArt?
Please say that isn’t true or going to happen.